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harvestmouse



Joined: May 13, 2007

Post   Posted: Mar 24, 2013 - 09:26 Reply with quote Back to top

Hmmmmmm I'll play along.

Some critical feedback.

Firstly this roster would never be 'added' to FUMBBL's list of rosters.

However hopefully at some point in the future, League Admins will be able to add rosters to Leagues they run, if/when that day comes and you run or find a League willing to use your roster, you'd get your roster on FUMBBL.

Like Mr F has pointed out, the roster theme isn't a great one for BB, however you pay your money you take your choice.

That's a shame for you, as Mr F is the premier monster icon maker on the site. With his backing, the project would have had some much needed clout (if he did the icons for you).

Have you heard of AV? It's part of the game too.

No fluff/little back ground and lazy theme. I like many, feel uninspired.

There are some massive holes in the roster design. If I'm honest too many for me to go into. I don't think you've really giving it much thought or/and aren't really experienced enough with the game/or creating rosters and theconstraints you should work under.

I mean 200k rrs!?

Prices missing, no AV, no access, roster limitations........tbh I get the feeling you spent more time typing it up than thinking it up.

Creativity is always good though, and I think roster design should be more prominent on the site.
the.tok



Joined: Jan 25, 2006

Post   Posted: Mar 25, 2013 - 10:56 Reply with quote Back to top

fumbblblitzfun wrote:
Just after some ideas for a starcraft team.

Rather then 3 seperate races, this team would be a combination of zerg, protoes and terran. The reason they are playing bloodbowl is as they went back in time and need money to fix their space hulk or something like that. I think that would be good.

WARNING IN DEVELOPMENT


Terran Space Marine S3 AG3 MOV4 ARMOUR 9 SKLL Block CST 30,000

Protoes Droid S4 AG1 MOV2 ARMOUR10 Sure Feet 70,000

Zerq Runner S1 AG5 MOV 9 ARMOUR6 80,0000

Special Unit - Commander, S3, AG3, MOV6, ARMOUR10 Leader, Block 150,000

Rerolls - 160,000

EDIT - ADDED ARMOUR


Hello

Don't mean to discourage you, but this team seems to have been design so randomly I don't even know where to start. You basically ignored every roster design rule, and the stats you give don't seem to make sense.

A few things you have to consider :

-Try to cost players close to similar existing player in "official" rosters.

For example, your terran is 4339 Block for 30k (same as a 5236 hafling!).
A Dwarf lineman is 4329 Block Tackle TS for 70k
an orc lineman is 5339 for 50k.

-Try to be consistent to what the player represents :

For example your zerg is ST1. There is only one player in BB that is ST1, that is a snotling. A snotling is about 60 cm tall AND they are weak for their size. Do you really think a zerg would be even against a snotling? Then why isn't it a stunty, let alone titchy?


Try reading this post on roster design, it is the rules that were kept in mind when designing all the other rosters : http://fumbbl.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=20129

Your roster should comply to almost every rule in this post before we can take it seriously. Sure you can break some of them, but you should have a reason to do so, not throw out random things.

HTH Wink
mr-maverick



Joined: Sep 10, 2010

Post   Posted: Mar 25, 2013 - 11:04 Reply with quote Back to top

fumbblblitzfun wrote:
of course i can. Leagues are made all the time. I just dont know the apllication rules here on this site


welcome to fumbbl!

...time to start the steep learning curve Smile

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JockMcRowdy



Joined: Jul 07, 2004

Post   Posted: Mar 25, 2013 - 14:29 Reply with quote Back to top

I like it, have a few tweeks though

Terran Space Marine 7 4 4 9 Block, Animosity GAS 80k
Protoes Droid 8 4 4 10 Block, Dodge, Guard, Animosity GAS 30k
Zerq Runner 18 3 3 7 Animosity GAS 20k
Special Unit - Commander, 5 6 3 10 Mighty Blow, Block, Animosity GS 120k

Rerolls - none available too much animosity

Disclaimer - these stats may have been taken from another thread

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truckerpunk



Joined: Dec 04, 2007

Post   Posted: Mar 25, 2013 - 14:40 Reply with quote Back to top

So you can basically have 8 players with block, 2 str4 players and a ag5 + 2rr at TV770.. sweet.
gjopie



Joined: Oct 27, 2009

Post   Posted: Mar 25, 2013 - 14:53 Reply with quote Back to top

JockMcRowdy wrote:
I like it, have a few tweeks though

Terran Space Marine 7 4 4 9 Block, Animosity GAS 80k
Protoes Droid 8 4 4 10 Block, Dodge, Guard, Animosity GAS 30k
Zerq Runner 18 3 3 7 Animosity GAS 20k
Special Unit - Commander, 5 6 3 10 Mighty Blow, Block, Animosity GS 120k

Rerolls - none available too much animosity

Disclaimer - these stats may have been taken from another thread


Perhaps the Commander should get M access on normal rolls to represent upgrades to his armour? Same cost.

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the.tok



Joined: Jan 25, 2006

Post   Posted: Mar 25, 2013 - 15:11 Reply with quote Back to top

JockMcRowdy wrote:
I like it, have a few tweeks though

Terran Space Marine 7 4 4 9 Block, Animosity GAS 80k
Protoes Droid 8 4 4 10 Block, Dodge, Guard, Animosity GAS 30k
Zerq Runner 18 3 3 7 Animosity GAS 20k
Special Unit - Commander, 5 6 3 10 Mighty Blow, Block, Animosity GS 120k

Rerolls - none available too much animosity

Disclaimer - these stats may have been taken from another thread


This must be a tier 2 team, zerg should haave M access too and I see no Ag5. How are you going to handle the ball? Wink
the space marine is a little overcosted, I think 40k would be more appropriate.

And you should add a big guy too :
Dreadnought 5 10 1 10 MB claw PO chainsaw
Or maybe a landraider? or a titan? a thunderhawk with leap and VLL?

Sidenote : why do people want space marines in BB so badly? Rolling Eyes
JockMcRowdy



Joined: Jul 07, 2004

Post   Posted: Mar 25, 2013 - 15:24 Reply with quote Back to top

because they are cool and they already have the miniatures for a team

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the.tok



Joined: Jan 25, 2006

Post   Posted: Mar 25, 2013 - 17:28 Reply with quote Back to top

But then, make a ball game more likely to be played in W40k and leave BB alone Smile

Like a football (the real one I mean) played on SM bikes and landspeeder. Would be a ton of fun, if done well.
A mix of Gorkamorka and BB Very Happy

Then you can put all the SM nonsense you like in this game... and we'll be back to discussing the bretonnian roster Wink

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Reisender



Joined: Sep 29, 2007

Post   Posted: Mar 25, 2013 - 17:55 Reply with quote Back to top

JockMcRowdy wrote:


Terran Space Marine 7 4 4 9 Block, Animosity GAS 80k
Protoes Droid 8 4 4 10 Block, Dodge, Guard, Animosity GAS 30k
Zerq Runner 18 3 3 7 Animosity GAS 20k
Special Unit - Commander, 5 6 3 10 Mighty Blow, Block, Animosity GS 120k

Rerolls - none available too much animosity



pfffff foooool we all know that is not enough ST, AV and kill skills for the space marine. let alone leap, jump up etc.... it´s a SPACE MARINE!!!
fumbblblitzfun



Joined: Mar 23, 2013

Post   Posted: Mar 25, 2013 - 22:57 Reply with quote Back to top

PSYCH Test Fumbbl League Experiment

You can tell the calibre of a man by their responses. This league proposition tested the calibre of postiveness and good blokeness in players on fummbl. Reason as fummbl has been known to sport a lot of uber nasty geek culture.

Results: this culture exists but their are notable exceptions.

Those who provided constructive (including detailed critical) feedback: you are winners in life.

Those who moaned, jeered and and who provided unhelpful vaguely comment are otherwise.

I return now to my sea vessel so as to return to my home planet of Guyapa. My account is likely to be suspended during transit over the next few days when it becomes clear I do not intend to finish the two games I dropped due to the fact my phone internet has been cancelled.

THis has been a PLeasurRE. I hope to play you in future


PS this is actually a mad team. it is fast yet very very strong. I stand by my original stats. This team meets Jervis Johnson critera for making teams and the only way you can tell if it works good is if you play it.
fumbblblitzfun



Joined: Mar 23, 2013

Post   Posted: Mar 25, 2013 - 22:58 Reply with quote Back to top

Notes: i am actually a game developer (i created the Master Chef board game) and the team is actually pretty damn near symmetrical.
harvestmouse



Joined: May 13, 2007

Post   Posted: Mar 26, 2013 - 06:21 Reply with quote Back to top

Yes........quite.....now where was my Guyapa gate key......
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