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Rookie Ogre rolled 6+4
+1 Mv
50%
 50%  [ 13 ]
+1 Av
23%
 23%  [ 6 ]
Pie!
26%
 26%  [ 7 ]
Total Votes : 26


MDeLarge



Joined: Aug 07, 2013

Post   Posted: Oct 08, 2014 - 14:49 Reply with quote Back to top

This ogre https://fumbbl.com/p/player?player_id=9982000 in this human team https://fumbbl.com/p/team?team_id=758850. The team is quite agile so could I take +1 Movement? Or take +1 armour and Guard on his second skill?
Wreckage



Joined: Aug 15, 2004

Post   Posted: Oct 08, 2014 - 15:38 Reply with quote Back to top

I was about to write that if those are the only choices I consider this trolling Razz.

But upon reconsideration... normals really aren't that great, are they?

+ma then... as others have mentioned.. there aren't any cases where av > ma as a skill choice.
JimmyFantastic



Joined: Feb 06, 2007

Post   Posted: Oct 08, 2014 - 15:42 Reply with quote Back to top

I would still take Guard. Guard SF is fine for a lot of matches, if he gets to 31 without a double you can sack him.

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ErobererZim



Joined: Dec 19, 2009

Post   Posted: Oct 08, 2014 - 15:48 Reply with quote Back to top

Garion wrote:
Jimmy is always right Razz

Purplegoo wrote:
Jimmy is, indeed, always right.

PurpleChest wrote:
Jimmy is, as always, right again.

Me wrote:
Yes it is.
PainState



Joined: Apr 04, 2007

Post   Posted: Oct 08, 2014 - 15:50 Reply with quote Back to top

Wreckage wrote:
+ma then... as others have mentioned.. there aren't any cases where av > ma as a skill choice.


What? So on a Ogre +MA is more desirable than AV10?

Can you argue that taking guard or PileOn is the better choice for the first skill...sure can, in fact I would argue that you take PO first and then take guard but that is just me.

BUT

+MA is more desirable than +AV on a OGRE seems ass backwards to me.

So if the choice is only +MV or +AV on a Ogre I vote +AV all day long.

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ErobererZim



Joined: Dec 19, 2009

Post   Posted: Oct 08, 2014 - 16:00 Reply with quote Back to top

The Question is for what u use the Ogre, u use em for Blitzing, no normal not Cause your Blitzers can make the Job a lot of better and dont be Boneheads, do u need the Ogre as DamageDealer no normal u use em for marking strong Players with low Agi or go to assist your Blitzers. So its for me no Question that an Ogre in an Human Team need normal and have only one Job and this is Supporting the Blitzers and thats there can at best with Guard and Stand Firm after these Skills (incl. Block) u can skill the +MA but not +AV he dont need it.

Bye the Way, u have enough PileOn Guys for give the Ogre it too.
Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: Oct 08, 2014 - 16:06 Reply with quote Back to top

I voted Ma but then realised this is a human team, not an Ogre team, so guard is the correct option.

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PainState



Joined: Apr 04, 2007

Post   Posted: Oct 08, 2014 - 16:08 Reply with quote Back to top

Lets step back for second and look at this ogre.

He is a blitzer/death dealer: +AV is a nice upgrade.

He is a lump and just clogs things up: +AV is a nice upgrade.

He is A HO HUM Guard/SF jelly filled donut and moonlights as a basher every once in awhile: +AV is a nice upgrade.

+AV couples nice with the 3 main jobs an ogre performs.

+MV on the other hand only really helps out a blitzer type plus now he has to take break tackle soon rather than later pushing guard/sf/po or any double or other +STAT down the line.

So my coaching experience tells me, based on my ogres on human teams, +MV is for the birds and if you want a truly legendary ogre you take the +AV or Guard or PileOn.

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