MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Dec 20, 2014 - 18:20 |
 
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As we know, joke teams perform better when they are underdogs, so what about adding a TV 100 modifier to Goblins, Halflings and Ogres in the Box?
This way they could get either 1 or 2 Bribes or 2 cards or 1 M.Chef/2 Babes/Wandering Apo, Star Player etc. and it would not be a gamebreaking change in my opinion.
If TV 100 modifier is too high even a TV 50 modifier would be useful (a card/babe/bribe for Goblins). |
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JimmyFantastic
Joined: Feb 06, 2007
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Dec 20, 2014 - 18:27 |
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Maybe -100 for Brogres. |
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Wreckage
Joined: Aug 15, 2004
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Dec 20, 2014 - 18:42 |
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couple of things:
1. It's a deviation from the core rules, changing TV value.
2. some people play these races for the challenge
3. Stunty teams start out about fine, gobbos are almost competative. More fragile teams just have a lower benefit from development because they spend on average less time on a pitch. Therefore a sub-1 multiplier would make more sense than to add a negative value.
That being said, I'm not totally against it. |
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JimmyFantastic
Joined: Feb 06, 2007
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Dec 20, 2014 - 18:46 |
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Having teams less than 1000 TV count as 1000 TV for the scheduler is a great idea, that would "fix" Flings and Gobbos as well as letting beat up teams get games.
Brogres have it hard enough without spotting their opponents 5 skills. |
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happygrue
Joined: Oct 15, 2010
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Dec 20, 2014 - 18:52 |
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| JimmyFantastic wrote: | Having teams less than 1000 TV count as 1000 TV for the scheduler is a great idea, that would "fix" Flings and Gobbos as well as letting beat up teams get games.
Brogres have it hard enough without spotting their opponents 5 skills. |
I think that would be great for recovery teams, but it would be too good for flings. A lot of games could be won "amazon camping" style with flings that are 600-700 TV but getting matched against 0 game teams with no tackle and such.
That said, it's still flings... so by "too good" I mean "they might win more than 50% of the time". But zons with a wiz against rookies would be next. Best to be to give teams an easy place to min/max against rookies, IMHO. |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Dec 20, 2014 - 19:03 |
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| Wreckage wrote: | couple of things:
1. It's a deviation from the core rules, changing TV value.
2. some people play these races for the challenge
That being said, I'm not totally against it. |
1) Rules don't state you must be paired by same TV, matchmaking by TV is a sort of house rule.
Anyway, the TV of the joke team would be changed ONLY for the scheduler, before the match it would be restored.
So for example, a TV 1000 stunty team activates in the Box, its TV becomes 1100 for the modifier.
Now the "artificial" TV is used to find an opponent of TV 1100.
Once the 2 teams have been paired, the "artificial" TV disappears and the normal, unmodified TV is used for the inducements.
2) With the TV modifier the games are still a challenge. You still have a stunty team, it's not that your stunty team suddenly becomes OP and easy to play. |
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Antithesisoftime
Joined: Aug 20, 2014
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Dec 20, 2014 - 19:08 |
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What happens, however, when that TV 1000 Halfling team, gets the 100TV boost to 1100, then gets scheduled against a 1040TV team? It'd only be helpful when playing up, but it could hurt a team playing down |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Dec 20, 2014 - 19:11 |
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| Antithesisoftime wrote: | | What happens, however, when that TV 1000 Halfling team, gets the 100TV boost to 1100, then gets scheduled against a 1040TV team? It'd only be helpful when playing up, but it could hurt a team playing down |
As I said, the "artificial" TV disappears before starting the game, so a TV 1000 team with artificial TV of 1100 would become TV 1000 before the match, and would gain 40k of inducements.
In this case the "artificial" TV would get you no inducements, but in many cases it would. |
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harvestmouse
Joined: May 13, 2007
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Dec 20, 2014 - 19:42 |
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What about a 'Rooooaaaar' button. Where you prefer playing up match ups. |
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albinv
Joined: Sep 15, 2012
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Dec 20, 2014 - 19:52 |
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"Rooaaaaar" button sounds nice.
A Fumbbl powered picking assistance! No more Mr. Nice Fling! |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Dec 20, 2014 - 19:52 |
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| harvestmouse wrote: | | What about a 'Rooooaaaar' button. Where you prefer playing up match ups. |
What about "constructive criticism"? |
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albinv
Joined: Sep 15, 2012
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Dec 20, 2014 - 19:57 |
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Oh missed some irony then.
Still sounds good to me. Press "Rooooar" button to get paired with 100k inducements.
First i thought this was against the official rule stance fumbbl takes. But then i realized its not really, like MattDakka pointed out.
Wont happen still, we all know it.
Me likes it tho, pimp those stunties. They're a joke. Would be cool to make them a good one at least.  |
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harvestmouse
Joined: May 13, 2007
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Dec 20, 2014 - 19:59 |
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| MattDakka wrote: | | harvestmouse wrote: | | What about a 'Rooooaaaar' button. Where you prefer playing up match ups. |
What about "constructive criticism"? |
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harvestmouse
Joined: May 13, 2007
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Dec 20, 2014 - 20:02 |
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| albinv wrote: | Oh missed some irony then.
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There wasn't any!!!!
I took the problem and came up with what I thought was a better idea to combat the problem. I don't think you should be forced to play up if you don't want to. On top of this, some 'joke' teams, may come from rosters that aren't normally weak (e.g all hobgoblins, all zombies etc).
So I came up with what I thought was a better alternative.....however today seems to be the day where mouse gets his deserved comeuppance! |
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Wreckage
Joined: Aug 15, 2004
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Dec 20, 2014 - 20:03 |
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somehow I think the roaar button would be a great idea... |
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