seanh1986
Joined: Jul 16, 2005
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Apr 27, 2015 - 06:09 |
 
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I can see the appeal of it... But it just looks so non-user friendly and all the fancy cut-scenes just seem like they'd make the game take forever... What I love about fumbbl is the speed at which you can play and save time, etc.
I started checking out bloodbowl on reddit... It's mostly Cyanide players but some TT and some fumbblers too. I've already recommended fumbbl to a bunch of them... Some of whom said they'd give it a try.
I miss the good-old-days of a few years ago when it seemed fumbbl was constantly busy... When you could get smack's by just idling in IRC, etc... So, I've kind of been thinking of ways to 'recruit' for fumbbl in my own way (reddit being one example).
I do find that it's a bit tricky to introduce new players to fumbbl because there is a steep learning curve here and often losing more than you win might turn people off. Ranked play for newbies can often lead to them reverse picking by accident and getting destroyed and black box can lead to some tough match-ups, etc.
The first step to populating fumbbl is getting more people interested in blood bowl and if cyanide does that... then that's a step in the right direction...
I would be tempted to try it out but I doubt it's worth the money or my time... |
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albinv
Joined: Sep 15, 2012
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Apr 27, 2015 - 07:27 |
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As most of the times i seem to be an alien among aliens.
I do think the graphics compared to Fumbbl - just plain stink (sry)! Drives me away instantly. One glimpse and you know they dont make sense. They arent very beautiful either. And i have no need for artificial or fake beauty anyway.
Must be a an IT nerd issue clearly that some consider to buy it still though they are confident they wont like it! Just so you can look at some pixels.
On a sidenote that's not very logical Mr. IT guru! 
Anyway...might give it a try still (and really, i never thought id say that).
I simply cant get matches in R aside with AV7 teams. I get something like 1-4 matches a month with my bash teams maybe?
So no realistic chance at all to get enough builders in order to play in Fumbbl's great tourneys. And then those teams that are left to apply rarely get a draw.
F.i. i applied my Rookie skaven for at least 5 weeks now without success, i actually think its closer to 2 months - but i wouldnt swear. Box issues are well known.
Leaves L - which is great for people that can schedule and dont play often. If you can schedule and dont want to play more than that, there is really nothing that isnt great about it or doesnt work.
Im not yet wise enough to play only 2-4 matches a week or something nor does society/economy (uhm...its the same anyway nowadays right?) think im worth a decent and reliable full time job.
So it seems im forced to make decisions.
I guess i will give cyanide a look.  |
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Roland
Joined: May 12, 2004
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Apr 27, 2015 - 09:24 |
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| albinv wrote: | | I simply cant get matches in R aside with AV7 teams. I get something like 1-4 matches a month with my bash teams maybe? |
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albinv
Joined: Sep 15, 2012
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Apr 27, 2015 - 10:03 |
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Well...well... ^^
Yeah, that was funny enough probably.
In the rather unlikely case this wasnt meant as a joke and the team isnt going to take the stack - i would thank you wholeheartedly(!) and give you a holler indeed.
In case you felt offended (IT ect.)...well, then id feel sorry in your case. On the other hand i dont feel it was offensive at all to be true.  |
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King_Ghidra
Joined: Sep 14, 2009
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Apr 27, 2015 - 10:44 |
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If the AI is not horrible (or moddable to not be horrible) I'll buy. |
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Deniz87
Joined: Aug 06, 2011
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Apr 27, 2015 - 11:34 |
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Yes: if you have money to spend..a donation to FUMBBL would be the best choice. I'll do it when I can.
I play cyanide only when I want to play in single player (most of the time). If FUMBBL had a single player option I'd totally stick with this site 100%. |
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JimmyFantastic
Joined: Feb 06, 2007
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Apr 27, 2015 - 11:48 |
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I'm in a cyanide league that can continue from disconnections & has all the teams and stars. That league is really good, MM is a nightmare. I think we are all a bit too critical of it just because fumbbl is so freaking amazing. |
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zakatan
Joined: May 17, 2008
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Apr 27, 2015 - 12:36 |
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There was this chess client back in the 90's called Battle Chess. It was essentially Chess with fancy (at the time) animations for movements and fights. It was kinda fun and I'm sure it helped some kids get interested towards chess. But it got old so quick. 5 games later the animations were already annoying more than anything.
Cyanide's client looks like a Battle Chess spin-off to me, putting the focus on the part of the game that is not important, while forfeiting gameplay. |
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koadah
Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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Apr 27, 2015 - 12:55 |
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| JimmyFantastic wrote: | | I'm in a cyanide league that can continue from disconnections & has all the teams and stars. That league is really good, MM is a nightmare. I think we are all a bit too critical of it just because fumbbl is so freaking amazing. |
That is cool. Is that built into the client now? Or do you need some helper software?
I suppose that is not going to help in MM where people will be disconnecting deliberately. Dode will have the numbers but I believe that there is still a huge number of disconnections and concessions. Even the Forum Open League had way more unfinished games than Fumbbl IIRC.
I do hear that they have very good leagues. But how many leagues are really going to switch over when there are only 8 races available?
If Cyanide's track record is anything to go by the first version will also be full of bugs.
I suspect that bugs did not get fixed on the current version because they were down to fundamental design issues. Maybe if they have learnt their lessons, this time the bugs will be more fixable.
8 races to start with was fair enough on the very first version but now they are splitting their MM user base. Many people will opt to stick with more races & fewer bugs. At least for a while.
The current version is usable if you have a decent opponent. e.g. in a league. But if you draw a griefer it is dreadful. And they used to have a lot of griefers.
Even when you can get the game and all the races for a fiver it would still be a worse deal for me than chaos edition. At least that had the silly real time mode to mess around with.  |
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selfy_74
Joined: Sep 03, 2010
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Apr 27, 2015 - 13:03 |
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The good thing about Cyanide is that when you get stuck playing some bellend that is crying like a baby because you've stamped on a snotlings head and killed it, for no other reason than you felt like it, you don't have to put up with it, you can listen to some banter from Bob and Jim instead. Worth every penny in my opinion. |
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JimmyFantastic
Joined: Feb 06, 2007
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Apr 27, 2015 - 13:09 |
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I don't really understand the technical side but they play over lan and have some kind of software which handles the team management aspect. |
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straume
Joined: Dec 01, 2003
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Apr 27, 2015 - 13:51 |
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I too play Cyanide. A league (OCC), mind you, not matchmaking. I understand matchmaking is quite horrible with disconnectors.
Then again I don`t really see the point in casual games her at Fumbbl either (no offense meant). You will meet someone that are likely building their team, and that doesn`t make for a good competitive match.
Also: Fancy graphics are not important, but I love the graphics in Cyanide`s game, so I guess graphics actually do matter. After all this is a miniature game where making something pretty will hit many in the player base. We have painting competitions, damn it, I don`t think that is too common in Chess...
So to sum up: Loving the game. Loving the computer game (yes, AI is horrible, and there are some bad bugs, but nothing gamebreaking). As for community league play is the way to enjoy the computer game, and for casual games I would never recommend matchmaking. Find a league! Or several!
I will for sure buy the new game as well. Perhaps the campaign will be fun! Heck, I even loved the old (1996?) PC-version! |
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Wreckage
Joined: Aug 15, 2004
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Apr 27, 2015 - 14:10 |
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Just to be clear: What I liked about the graphics in BB2 was that they looked a bit more practical and functional than in the first part... everything was a bit slimmer and functionality and graphics integrated nicely...
I can also see why this isn't easy to do for modern programming... just because you usually have those guys that program graphics and those guys that program interface and the outcome is always a bit clumsy...even often enough in the multimillion dollar games.. so, great effort and the more people get introduced to this wonderful game, the better... Honestly, if you love the game you'll end up on fumbbl eventually anyways |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Apr 27, 2015 - 14:26 |
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| Wreckage wrote: | | Honestly, if you love the game you'll end up on fumbbl eventually anyways |
Too bad that FUMBBL has not enough coaches.
I remember BB1 having about 1000 coaches online, you could find a MM game in 2-3 minutes. |
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juck101
Joined: Nov 16, 2003
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Apr 27, 2015 - 15:06 |
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The community on Cyanide is different, and that alone is worth a look. Both clients have good and bad bits. I would encourage anyone to try it, and dont forget to play tabletop also if you can. |
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