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Mr_Fantastic



Joined: Aug 01, 2006

Post   Posted: Feb 22, 2017 - 16:08 Reply with quote Back to top

- I'm in my first League with an SL team (https://fumbbl.com/p/team?team_id=868295) and am wondering about reserves and team building as it relates to TW. Is it worth keeping an extra guy (lineman, or adding another Birch aspect) on the bench? This might be a non-issue, but I'm just curious what other coaches think.

- Coaching Halflings at low TW on Ranked - is this possible? I can't seem to get game matches on Gamefinder, but maybe I'm doing something wrong? Or is this a strategy that only works for B division?
PainState



Joined: Apr 04, 2007

Post   Posted: Feb 22, 2017 - 16:36 Reply with quote Back to top

TW will always equal TV in less you have players who are MNG or you are low on men and have to hire J-men. In that case your TW will exceed your current TV.


The only time TW is a issue is for specific tournaments that look at TW instead of TV. For R/B and L play TW is a meaningless construct, as stated before, except for a tournament that uses TW for entry.

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Mr_Fantastic



Joined: Aug 01, 2006

Post   Posted: Feb 22, 2017 - 16:41 Reply with quote Back to top

Sorry, I guess I meant TV, not TW.
thebursar



Joined: Sep 25, 2008

Post   Posted: Feb 22, 2017 - 16:49 Reply with quote Back to top

Regarding the halflings, playing at that low TV only really works for tournaments. You can't easily get matchups in Ranked because the range you can play is 760 ~920 and Gamefinder will only show teams that fall within that range. Plus or minus 80 TV, as shown on your coach page after the team's TV.

In blackbox it will be hard to get a favorable matchup as well as other pairings will likely be a better fit.

In both cases you'd have to get lucky to have another team at low TV offer a match or enter the draw at the same time.
Rabe



Joined: Jun 06, 2009

Post   Posted: Feb 22, 2017 - 17:11 Reply with quote Back to top

I like having reserves a lot (because they increase the team's resilience, allow you to have specialists or simply make fouling more attractive to you and less to your opponent) and I do believe that in League, where match-making is not made via TV and pretty much every game matters (no dedicated recovery and building games during a season), they are even more necessary. Since Dryads have high strength and high AV, you probably need them less, but personally I'd aim for 12-13 players on the roster (always depending a bit on your environment es well, of course).

On the halfling problem:
a) Retire them.
b) Enter them into a tournament, just for fun (weekly SMACKs or even the Minor that is kicking off tonight), but expect (them) to get hammered.
c) Look for an opponent via forum or (better) blog entry. Sometimes teams are simply horribly unlucky, have a lot of players missing and therefor need a low-TV opponent.

In case b) or c) you likely want to increase your TW soon (by hiring more players, staff and re-rolls) or you will face the same problem over and over again.

Edit:
Spelling and mixed up options. Smile

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Mr_Fantastic



Joined: Aug 01, 2006

Post   Posted: Feb 22, 2017 - 17:13 Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated!
mrt1212



Joined: Feb 26, 2013

Post   Posted: Feb 22, 2017 - 18:38 Reply with quote Back to top

I have several teams that are sub 1000 in black box as part of some meta roster funsies - I just don't activate around normal times for euros since I'm US based. Keep an eye out though, you might get lucky.
Cavetroll



Joined: Jan 21, 2009

Post   Posted: Feb 22, 2017 - 23:14 Reply with quote Back to top

This brings up an interesting question. If a box team that is older than 30 games (or whatever the threshold is) gets hammered below 1000 TV, I presume it would be easier for them to get a game because they aren't locked into the narrow protective bands?

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ArrestedDevelopment



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Post   Posted: Feb 22, 2017 - 23:45 Reply with quote Back to top

Cavetroll wrote:
This brings up an interesting question. If a box team that is older than 30 games (or whatever the threshold is) gets hammered below 1000 TV, I presume it would be easier for them to get a game because they aren't locked into the narrow protective bands?


Yes it is. It's also quite likely it's a game you "don't want" if you're in the NA timezone.


As an aside, "low tv flings" for ranked 'works' better than box. In box, you're at the mercy of the scheduler and for the first 1-15 games will frequently find yourself matched within 100 TV anyway, and 15+ games old may very well either still be unable to induce anything (or 30+ may find yourself playing 1900+ TV nurgle). In ranked, you can make sure you can always induce a chef once you've played enough games to play within X% TV of opponent (ie. once you can play 100+ TV up/down). You're still reliant on people accepting the game of course though.

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