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Vrakastalion



Joined: Mar 09, 2014

Post   Posted: May 10, 2017 - 22:59 Reply with quote Back to top

The follow situation occurs:

FXXX
XPPX
XPSX
XXXX

Where the F is a Frenzy player and S is a Stand Firm player.
Suppose the result of the block is PUSH, could I push the P player to Stant Firm (S) Player and repeat the block again in the same position?

Thank you in advance.
JackassRampant



Joined: Feb 26, 2011

Post   Posted: May 10, 2017 - 23:08 Reply with quote Back to top

The stand firm player could opt not to use stand firm, but otherwise yeah.

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Vrakastalion



Joined: Mar 09, 2014

Post   Posted: May 10, 2017 - 23:15 Reply with quote Back to top

I remember something on LRB6 that you can choose only to push other but Stand Firmer (I can remember wrong, anyway). The answer is the same even if the Stand Firm is on the same team of the F?
paradocks



Joined: Jun 14, 2004

Post   Posted: May 10, 2017 - 23:49 Reply with quote Back to top

There was a bug in the old client that you could've chainpushed the Stand Firm player in the situation above. Not sure if that's what you meant
kummo



Joined: Mar 29, 2016

Post   Posted: May 10, 2017 - 23:51 Reply with quote Back to top

I've seen play like that happen on bb2. And i believe coding of standfirm is same in fumbbl client (i mean the "rule" of it, not the code language.. like.. how it is supposed to work in client should be same with fumbbl than it is in bb2). So if you/they choose to stand firm then you should get 2nd block dice.

Both down cancels/stops frenzy but push with SF is still a push.

What is more complicated and i think more interesting is:

If your frenzy guy had juggernaut -> would you be able to push standfirm piece with chainpush?


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Stimme



Joined: Jun 30, 2013

Post   Posted: May 10, 2017 - 23:52 Reply with quote Back to top

The answer is the same, also if the Stand Firm player is on your team. You can choose to use the Stand Firm skill or not, the Frenzy player will always have to throw the second block.

It gets more interesting if the Frenzy player also has the Juggernaut skill. Against common belief, Juggernaut can not overrule Stand Firm of a chainpushed player.
Vrakastalion



Joined: Mar 09, 2014

Post   Posted: May 11, 2017 - 00:03 Reply with quote Back to top

paradocks wrote:
There was a bug in the old client that you could've chainpushed the Stand Firm player in the situation above. Not sure if that's what you meant


Exactely my remember
JellyBelly



Joined: Jul 08, 2009

Post   Posted: May 11, 2017 - 00:33 Reply with quote Back to top

Has that bug been fixed?

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ArrestedDevelopment



Joined: Sep 14, 2015

Post   Posted: May 11, 2017 - 00:47 Reply with quote Back to top

Yes, wolf blitz, pushing into SF (then standing firm for the second block) is a key part of necro strategy.


Juggs causes you to push your golem as well, as Stimme notes, which is why two wolf necro should generally not take juggs on both wolves.

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paradocks



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Post   Posted: May 11, 2017 - 01:05 Reply with quote Back to top

JellyBelly wrote:
Has that bug been fixed?


Ya, this was with the old JavaBBowl client
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