ph0enyx13
Joined: Nov 14, 2015
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Oct 17, 2017 - 05:49 |
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More or less the title. What should you focus on for making a box zon team that can go up against box pact (I figure zons have the advantage with all the dodge and the av7 anyway).
Is it like 1 tackle mb blitzer, 2 rerolls, 1 appo, and fill the rest up with linos with as much dp and guard as you can muster? |
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Kondor
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Joined: Apr 04, 2008
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Oct 17, 2017 - 05:58 |
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Don't worry so much about pact. You have only played them twice in the box. However, I would say any amazon team should do well against most pact teams. |
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Sp00keh
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Joined: Dec 06, 2011
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Oct 17, 2017 - 09:25 |
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Wrestle as first skill on linos maybe? |
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Kondor
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Joined: Apr 04, 2008
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Oct 17, 2017 - 09:37 |
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Sp00keh wrote: | Wrestle as first skill on linos maybe? |
No. Block as a first skill on everyone. On a young team you will face many players without block. Every time you knock someone down you have a chance to get them off the field. With wrestle, your player is also on the ground and he can still move to offer assists on his turn.
Wrestle is only superior to block when your opponent has block and he rolls both down. But even then your guy is on the ground so he loses his tackle zone and a ball carrier + screen can walk past him. |
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JackassRampant
Joined: Feb 26, 2011
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Oct 17, 2017 - 09:58 |
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Agreed. Maybe one Wrestle, the rest Block. |
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bghandras
Joined: Feb 06, 2011
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Oct 17, 2017 - 10:45 |
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I prefer having a mix of both. But start with block then add wrestle later in team development for future 6spp almost rookies. |
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MattDakka
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Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Oct 17, 2017 - 14:03 |
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ph0enyx13 wrote: | More or less the title. What should you focus on for making a box zon team that can go up against box pact (I figure zons have the advantage with all the dodge and the av7 anyway).
Is it like 1 tackle mb blitzer, 2 rerolls, 1 appo, and fill the rest up with linos with as much dp and guard as you can muster? |
With the new meta Guard is even more necessary, I suggest to start with 4 Blitzers to have regular S access and 4 Blodgers. 1 should take Mighty Blow, Tackle, Guard, the other 3 Guard, Mighty Blow, Tackle.
2 rrs without Sure Hands is risky, you could regret it when facing some teams like Elves or Dwarfs/Chaos Dwarfs or Pouring Rain.
I would start with 3 rrs.
Also, Dodge spam is nice but you could face 2 Big Guys with Tentacles, consider that. |
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Loew
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Joined: Feb 02, 2005
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Oct 17, 2017 - 14:03 |
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Just a small warning: min-maxed Zones are not just good vs Pact, they are good vs almost every other team that is not dwarf..and even than it is not as onesided as it seems on first look.
so, an Amazon team in the box can quickly become almost as hated as certain Pact teams |
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MattDakka
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Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Oct 17, 2017 - 14:13 |
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Loew wrote: | Just a small warning: min-maxed Zones are not just good vs Pact, they are good vs almost every other team that is not dwarf..and even than it is not as onesided as it seems on first look.
so, an Amazon team in the box can quickly become almost as hated as certain Pact teams |
Without PO, Amazons need more Guard (because if they don't cause casualties they actually have to block more to advance and to defend, and PO protected the killer Blitzer as well), that leads to playing with more Blitzers and to a TV increase.
Also, since PO has been removed Tackle is more common even on low TV teams, unlike in CRP. |
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