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MarckusOfCamlan



Joined: Jul 20, 2017

Post   Posted: Jun 01, 2020 - 22:26 Reply with quote Back to top

This match with my stunty horror of Tzench :

https://fumbbl.com/p/match?id=4189998


Firestorms start turn 1.
Eli Efamar starts a Bomb Action.
Eli Efamar throws a bomb at David Necur:
Pass Roll [ 1 ]
Eli Efamar fumbles the bomb.
Roll a 3+ to succeed (AG3 + 1 Quick Pass + Roll > 6).
Re-Roll using TEAM REROLL
Pass Roll [ 6 ]
Eli Efamar throws the bomb successfully.
David Necur tries to catch the bomb:
Catch Roll [ 4 ]
David Necur catches the bomb.
Succeeded on a roll of 4+ (AG 2 + 1 Accurate Pass + Roll > 6).
David Necur throws a bomb at Aaron Qurak:
Pass Roll [ 6 ]
David Necur throws the bomb successfully.
Succeeded on a roll of 4+ (AG2 + 1 Quick Pass + Roll > 6).
Bomb Effect Roll [ 6 ]
Eli Efamar is hit by the explosion.
Armour Roll [ 3 ][ 1 ]
Rolled Total of 4
Eli Efamar has been saved by his armour.
Bomb Effect Roll [ automatic success ]
Aaron Qurak is hit by the explosion.
Armour Roll [ 1 ][ 5 ]
Rolled Total of 6
Aaron Qurak has been saved by his armour.
Bomb Effect Roll [ 1 ]
Genesis King escapes the explosion.
MarckusOfCamlan



Joined: Jul 20, 2017

Post   Posted: Jun 01, 2020 - 22:27 Reply with quote Back to top

Eli has those skills : Leap, Sprint, Safe Throw, Very Long Legs, Bombardier, No Hands, Regeneration
MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Jun 01, 2020 - 22:46 Reply with quote Back to top

Safe Throw skill doesn't affect fumbled bombs and team-mates.
JanMattys



Joined: Feb 29, 2004

Post   Posted: Jun 01, 2020 - 22:54 Reply with quote Back to top

MattDakka wrote:
Safe Throw skill doesn't affect fumbled bombs and team-mates.


Safe Throw cancels the fumble (but not on bombs), but he didn't fumble. He rerolled the pass and rolled a 6, then the bomb got intercepted and his player doesn't seem to roll the AG roll for canceling the intercept.

It looks like Safe Throw didnt work as intended.

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MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Jun 01, 2020 - 22:57 Reply with quote Back to top

It didn't work because Safe Throw doesn't work when a bomb is fumbled.

The bomb didn't get intercepted.
If you read the log carefully you will see that the bomb was TARGETED to the player who caught it:

"Eli Efamar throws a bomb at David Necur".

Safe Throw cancels interceptions, not catches by targeted player.


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JanMattys



Joined: Feb 29, 2004

Post   Posted: Jun 01, 2020 - 22:58 Reply with quote Back to top

He did NOT fumble. He rerolled the pass and rolled a 6, so for all purposes he did NOT fumble.

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JanMattys



Joined: Feb 29, 2004

Post   Posted: Jun 01, 2020 - 22:59 Reply with quote Back to top

MattDakka wrote:
The bomb didn't get intercepted.
If you read the log carefully you will see that the bomb was TARGETED to the player who caught it.
Safe Throw cancels interceptions, not catches by targeted player.


ok, this makes sense.

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MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Jun 01, 2020 - 22:59 Reply with quote Back to top

I know.
First roll was a fumble, he used the re-roll to avoid the fumble.
I said that Safe Throw doesn't work with fumbles just to explain fully the rule, in case the OP thought Safe Throw could cancel the fumble.

To OP:
if you want to avoid opponents' catches, target the square in front of the target player(s) instead of a specific target player and not with a trajectory which can be intercepted, and if you want to be sure, take Hail Mary Pass on bombardiers, bomb always scatters but it can't be intercepted.


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JanMattys



Joined: Feb 29, 2004

Post   Posted: Jun 01, 2020 - 23:04 Reply with quote Back to top

Looks like it was a straight catch by David Necur.
No Safe Throw use there.

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HaruHaru



Joined: Sep 05, 2019

Post   Posted: Jun 01, 2020 - 23:13 Reply with quote Back to top

Doesn't very long legs cancel safe throw?
Joost



Joined: Mar 17, 2014

Post   Posted: Jun 01, 2020 - 23:26 Reply with quote Back to top

it does
MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Jun 01, 2020 - 23:27 Reply with quote Back to top

Yes, Safe Throw can't be used to cancel interceptions made by Very Long Legs players.
MarckusOfCamlan



Joined: Jul 20, 2017

Post   Posted: Jun 01, 2020 - 23:35 Reply with quote Back to top

"Safe Throw cancels interceptions, not catches by targeted player."

OK, I misunderstood the way bombs work. Safe throw is still good but less op. Smile

My mistake
Sharper



Joined: Nov 22, 2006

Post   Posted: Jun 02, 2020 - 04:59 Reply with quote Back to top

Also Safe Throw doesn't work on Fumble's on a natural 1.
Found that out the other day in game.
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