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Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: Jul 09, 2011 - 16:15 Reply with quote Back to top

DukeTyrion wrote:
Garion wrote:

Also if the top divisions dont have any TW cap then would that not allow them to accumulate huge sums of money in the top divisions which may make life harder for the teams coming up through the divisions to stay there?


That might be the case in a division with only 1 or 2 relegations, but the WIL prem has a 50% team relegation chance.

Think about it this way, if you were thinking about joining WIL with a new team, would you still be tempted if you saw a 2,500 TW team in the bottom division?


no no I absolutely agree with you there, and I agree with Koadah - that just caping the fringe and the the bottom tier may be the way forward. 1500 for both. Above that it should be a free for all as intended by the rules creators.

I think this makes sense so teams can have a building season or two in the bottom divisions before being thrust into the mayhem that is the top two divisions.

Or alternately by using TV rather than TW, so you have to get rid of things of value like players as punishment for dropping divisions, rather than just buying RR and dropping them until you have no money left. This both fits in better with fluff and doesn't feel quite so crazy I know its just a game but it would seem silly to me for a football club to say quick lets get rid of all our money so we can play in the lower league rather than, lets get rid of our best players because we can no longer afford their wages etc...
Mr_Foulscumm



Joined: Mar 05, 2005

Post   Posted: Jul 09, 2011 - 20:22 Reply with quote Back to top

I don't like caps at all to be honest. But if there needs to be one then higher is better than lower. I would go with Grins suggestion

Premier: Unlimited
Conference: 225
Regionals: 175

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DukeTyrion



Joined: Feb 18, 2004

Post   Posted: Jul 09, 2011 - 20:33 Reply with quote Back to top

Well, there seem to be 4 very different thought, which include;

No Caps.

Cap only Bottom division

Have Caps of U / 225 / 175

Have Caps of U / 200 / 150

Perhaps there should be a private ballot or something, but for the record I am in the last camp of U / 200 / 150
Purplegoo



Joined: Mar 23, 2006

Post   Posted: Jul 09, 2011 - 21:12 Reply with quote Back to top

Bah; boo democracy.

I back PeteW to dictate hot steaming justice upon the masses.

Dictate, glorious leader! Wink
Mr_Foulscumm



Joined: Mar 05, 2005

Post   Posted: Jul 09, 2011 - 21:20 Reply with quote Back to top

Purplegoo wrote:
Bah; boo democracy.

I back PeteW to dictate hot steaming justice upon the masses.

Dictate, glorious leader! Wink


I find your lack of trust in the unwashed masses disgusting! And stop sucking up to PeteW! People like you make me sick!

I say we hang the traitor Purplegoo!

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Purplegoo



Joined: Mar 23, 2006

Post   Posted: Jul 09, 2011 - 21:24 Reply with quote Back to top

Traitior?!

I'm sucking up to the chief! The head honcho, the big cheese!

Lowly scum. Wink
Mr_Foulscumm



Joined: Mar 05, 2005

Post   Posted: Jul 09, 2011 - 21:27 Reply with quote Back to top

Surprised

Off with his head!

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clarkin



Joined: Oct 15, 2007

Post   Posted: Jul 10, 2011 - 17:36 Reply with quote Back to top

I vote for unlimited/2000/1500 and using TW
Timlagor



Joined: Feb 13, 2009

Post   Posted: Jul 11, 2011 - 06:46 Reply with quote Back to top

Hang the Goo!.. though possibly burning at the stake might be more effective...

I prefer:
1) No caps
2) any caps must be TW
3) failing (1), caps only in bottom division
4) less than 50% relegation

I would be happy to join a division with a 2250TV monster in the entry (though I don't see that happening).

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DukeTyrion



Joined: Feb 18, 2004

Post   Posted: Jul 11, 2011 - 11:12 Reply with quote Back to top

I think Purplegoo is the Werewolf.

This is backed up up by his Avatar. If he turns out to be a Wolf then we can follow the thread and try and find the other wolves ... oh wait, wrong game >.<
Afroman



Joined: Feb 09, 2006

Post   Posted: Jul 11, 2011 - 11:24 Reply with quote Back to top

newbie question:
How is TW calculated?
Kinks



Joined: Feb 28, 2007

Post   Posted: Jul 11, 2011 - 11:30 Reply with quote Back to top

TV + Cash = TW

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Mateuszzzzzz



Joined: Feb 26, 2006

Post   Posted: Jul 11, 2011 - 11:43 Reply with quote Back to top

Kinks wrote:
TV + Cash = TW
+ mng players.

I would like to see U/225/175 TW based.

Btw how is ready to play/unable to drop tv going to be solved?
krytie



Joined: Aug 16, 2007

Post   Posted: Jul 11, 2011 - 11:46 Reply with quote Back to top

TV+ Cash/10000 + TV of missing players = TW.
The site calculates TW automatically and presents it handily at the bottom of each team page.

I agree TW must be used rather than TV, otherwise people with 5 mng's will fit under cap nicely and then suddenly grow 400TV after first game.

tbh, i'm fairly open when it comes to the cap values, most likely i'd favour the unlimited/unlimited/1500 but wouldn't be too upset with unlimited/2000/1500.

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krytie



Joined: Aug 16, 2007

Post   Posted: Jul 11, 2011 - 11:48 Reply with quote Back to top

Kinks wrote:
Btw how is ready to play/unable to drop tv going to be solved?


I think friendlies will take care of those, but for persistent offenders i vote they must name their next purchase afer PeteW and retire him as soon as he earns any spp. Twisted Evil

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