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Do you want the Undead Team to stay?
Yes, of course
74%
 74%  [ 101 ]
No, they are broken
12%
 12%  [ 17 ]
No, they don't fit the fluff
8%
 8%  [ 11 ]
Yes, and if they go I will only make Undead teams and try to keep em "alive"
5%
 5%  [ 7 ]
Total Votes : 136


swilhelm73



Joined: Oct 06, 2003

Post   Posted: Nov 07, 2003 - 00:06 Reply with quote Back to top

Well, IMO, Rotter Beastmen should have Regen as opposed to Horns...would make more of a difference from regular Chaos too...
thmbscrws



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Nov 07, 2003 - 00:07 Reply with quote Back to top

I'd like to take a second to once again try to drive home the point that undead aren't going anywhere, just the mummies on the undead team are leaving. They could have avoided a lot of this nostalgic backlash if they just called Necromantic Revised Undead. Then when it went to being official change it back to being called undead. It's not the first time teams have lost players or had players changed, anybody else remember when lizardmen had Temple Guards. It's not so much a question of balance as it is a question of flavor and variety.

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alterationX



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Nov 07, 2003 - 09:00 Reply with quote Back to top

hm, i thought the temple guard was a star player?
BunnyPuncher



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Nov 07, 2003 - 09:06 Reply with quote Back to top

No... but they could hire a seamstress!

"Hold on baby, momma's gonna sew that arm back on"

"Rrraaawwwwaaagggh!"

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cusi



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post 1 Posted: Nov 07, 2003 - 09:55 Reply with quote Back to top

2 good articles on this subject
http://fumbbl.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=6&page=2
and
http://fumbbl.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=6&page=3
mobo



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Nov 11, 2003 - 17:57 Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks for all the feedback. Thanks cusi -great articles Smile

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Buckle



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Nov 12, 2003 - 08:41 Reply with quote Back to top

Nurgle teams not getting an Apothocary hurts. I am playing in a table top league with them and have lost two beastman as a result. Of course my regen has stuck once. Personally, I don't think the team is that good but then again I always roll like crap.

As for Undead, I say leave them in and leave them alone. I have never had any real troubles beating Undead teams and I don't really fear the mummies.
SnakeSanders



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Nov 12, 2003 - 13:38 Reply with quote Back to top

well the thing about rotters is that you can raise them with your beast... if the beastmen had regenerate as well then they would be a bit strong...
swilhelm73



Joined: Oct 06, 2003

Post   Posted: Nov 12, 2003 - 20:47 Reply with quote Back to top

browwnrob_ni wrote:
well the thing about rotters is that you can raise them with your beast... if the beastmen had regenerate as well then they would be a bit strong...


Obviously if Nurgle Beasties had horns and regen they would need to be upped in price and may well be too strong.

OTOH, I don't see how replacing horns with regen makes them too strong. My Chaos team has lost 5 beaties in 27 games. My Nurgle team has lost 7 beasties in 13. If the latter were in a tournament as opposed to open I'd be in serious trouble...

More importantly, to my mind, it makes them more different from regular Chaos.
cusi



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Nov 12, 2003 - 21:45 Reply with quote Back to top

yeah
fer fluff purposes just say the first thing effected by nurgles rot is the horns!
nurgle rot can't be that bad though, you're putrid and rotten in exchange you get to regenerate?
immortality for a lfietime of oozing?
should that be a poll question?


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thmbscrws



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Nov 13, 2003 - 03:26 Reply with quote Back to top

I'd take it Wink

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Mnemon



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Nov 13, 2003 - 03:31 Reply with quote Back to top

Let me guess - you have the oozing part already, but lack immortality?

-Mnemon
Buckle



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Nov 13, 2003 - 03:49 Reply with quote Back to top

I would be satisfied to see regen added back to the physical abilities.
Mnemon



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Nov 13, 2003 - 03:59 Reply with quote Back to top

Hrm - a PO/RSC Mino with regenerate ... don't like the idea.

-Mnemon
Kaz



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Nov 13, 2003 - 05:18 Reply with quote Back to top

Mnemon wrote:
Hrm - a PO/RSC Mino with regenerate ... don't like the idea.


Imagine if Enjoyment had Regenerate....
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