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CircularLogic



Joined: Aug 22, 2003

Post   Posted: Nov 12, 2008 - 07:51 Reply with quote Back to top

This is for future reference - I`m aware, that at the moment getting basic functionality of [B] working has priority.

The concept of a regular SMACK is that 8 coaches take 1 team and play KO-tourney.

A Black SMACK would be 8 coaches playing againts each other in a KO-style tourney. Each coach would be required to specify a team of his below a certain TR cap (just as in regular SMACKs now). This team would be set aside as a diciding team. Then all 8 coaches enter the box and get paired against each other. The Box takes all teams in account BUT the diciding team. Only if coaches cannot reasonably be paired this way, they are paired using their diciding team.
Play the games given by the box, drop the losers and repeat twice.

I`m thinking about a requirement of having at least 3 [B] teams before entering a SMACK... just so that the diciding team isn`t needed that much.
SillySod



Joined: Oct 10, 2006

Post   Posted: Nov 12, 2008 - 08:18 Reply with quote Back to top

It seems somewhat easy to abuse... suppose I have a tooled out veteran team and two identical min-maxed rookie teams. Thats going to be easy to creat and I can be pretty confident I'll like the games I get given.

Either way I dont see this as a smack, just a collection of strung together for the sake of a title. Ordinary smacks are different because they have continuity, the team you play in one game must be capable of playing in the next one too and you can plan ahead for your potential opponents. I dont think that this format would be any different to regular [B]... except it is likely to end up with more uneven matchups and it comes with a title if you can win three games in a row.

Personally I dont want to see smacks in blackbox. Tournaments would be great but I just cant see any point in blackbox smacks. What I'd rather see is a major style tournament or (even better) a 200TR or 250TR capped tournament in blackbox. It would be very interesting to see how coaches approached something like this since creating a perfect team for a TR200 minor is tough enough in [R]anked, and you can predict your games there.

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Purplegoo



Joined: Mar 23, 2006

Post   Posted: Nov 12, 2008 - 08:27 Reply with quote Back to top

I too am somewhat unconvinced by SMACKs in [B].

It's tricky to figure out what sort of tourney is going to suit the division best actually, but I think they will certianly hold plenty of bragging rights. Since the box uses TS currently (I think?), wouldn't caps be TS based, for starters?

There's certianly room (imo) for big open KOs down the road, which will trump the [R]anked ones, but as for the rest, I'm not sure. Perhaps something of a Swiss nature would work?
koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Post   Posted: Nov 12, 2008 - 09:00 Reply with quote Back to top

To me, the dowside of tournaments in [B] is that it invites more of the [R] spirit in.

Some coaches will see them as more important than regular games so sometihing to 'save your team' for, to pimp your team for, to whine about fouling for.

Now I am sure that the l33t (Wink) coaches are above all that but some of us lightweights may think that it is a waste of time without a decent team.

[R] is already full of tournaments. Do we really need more?

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PirateRob



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Nov 12, 2008 - 09:35 Reply with quote Back to top

Smacks don't make any sense in B.
You're already playing random opponents, all they would do is force unbalanced match ups between winning teams that were fortunate enough not to lose players and winning teams that were not so fortunate.
Wotfudboy



Joined: Feb 17, 2004

Post   Posted: Nov 12, 2008 - 09:37 Reply with quote Back to top

I'm in agreement with Koadah... Ranked already has all that. I like the Blackbox idea, and I would prefer to see it untainted by anything else. It's just pure fun. Let's keep it that way.

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pythrr



Joined: Mar 07, 2006

Post   Posted: Nov 12, 2008 - 09:49 Reply with quote Back to top

koadah wrote:
To me, the dowside of tournaments in [B] is that it invites more of the [R] spirit in.



[R] is already full of tournaments. Do we really need more?


Well we might eventually since [R] has been a bit of a dustbowl since [B] rode into town.
pac



Joined: Oct 03, 2005

Post   Posted: Nov 12, 2008 - 13:09 Reply with quote Back to top

pythrr wrote:
Well we might eventually since [R] has been a bit of a dustbowl since [B] rode into town.

Wow, you're right, take a look here. The line for [B] isn't labelled, but it's the one that's only just appeared and made a huge leap yesterday, falling fractionally short of surpassing [R] in terms of division with the most games played (something that has never happened (at least, never over a monthly period) since records began!).

Is this a passing fad or a historic shift ...?
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