Flix
Joined: Oct 26, 2003
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Jan 05, 2009 - 23:44 |
 
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in my last game the ts difference is very high:
Example
all difference is not bigger than 5 only mine is 11. But my score says i should have the fairest matchup
<BowlBot> Found 19 coaches.
<BowlBot> - Skolopender vs Draxus (Dark Elf 90/84 vs 100/80 Wood Elf) @889
<BowlBot> - moony2k vs karlson (Chaos 106/99 vs 126/110 Orc) @867
<BowlBot> - Zeke73 vs Bergh (Dark Elf 100/105 vs 117/103 Necromantic) @839
<BowlBot> - Adrian666 vs Pastorn (High Elf 162/150 vs 153/147 Elf) @857
<BowlBot> - P vs LiteralPhilosopher (Orc 140/132 vs 136/126 Khemri) @875
<BowlBot> - Naama vs Blackwidow (Chaos 234/193 vs 213/192 Chaos) @817
<BowlBot> - Wolfrider_DK vs Ghazkhull (Orc 116/110 vs 117/105 Dark Elf) @850
<BowlBot> - boch vs Flix (Dark Elf 155/168 vs 148/157 High Elf) @897
<BowlBot> - Blainkhard vs JustusDelmar (Dwarf 157/163 vs 160/165 Wood Elf) @855
My last 10 Blackbox games
11,5,4,2,15,18,-2,14,10 |
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shadow46x2
Joined: Nov 22, 2003
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Jan 05, 2009 - 23:56 |
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within the +/- 15 TS restrictions....and, since you got a handicap with the 18TS game, it falls within the 15TS restriction too...
oh, and the 19 TS game was a ranked matchup 
no problem..system works as programmed
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westerner
Joined: Jul 02, 2008
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Jan 05, 2009 - 23:58 |
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Suitability score is not totally driven by TS. It also takes BR/BBR and racial factors into account.
Btw, I checked your last 10 [B] matchups and found the following TS differences/handicaps:
-5/0 (vs Krispe)
-6/0
-19/2
-2/0
-15/1
-18/2
2/0
-14/2
-10/1
4/0 (vs Blackwidow)
for an average of -8.3TS and +0.8 handicaps. |
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Flix
Joined: Oct 26, 2003
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Jan 06, 2009 - 00:04 |
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thats what i mean why are all other games much more fair than mine?
7/11
1/5
-3/6
35/19
9/2
14/15
27/18
3/-2
39/14
-11/10
-3/-3 |
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Reisender
Joined: Sep 29, 2007
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Jan 06, 2009 - 00:11 |
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win less = better matchups, hehe
but you just wanted to show off your high BR  |
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westerner
Joined: Jul 02, 2008
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Jan 06, 2009 - 00:11 |
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as I said, the scheduler currently takes BR (coach rating), BBR (bashiness) and racial factors into account when calculating the suitability of a match. Your match was probably influenced by some of these factors. BR and BBR are not currently published. |
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Flix
Joined: Oct 26, 2003
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Jan 06, 2009 - 00:35 |
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so what i have to do is playing stupit basher teams got get better matchups? |
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johan
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jan 06, 2009 - 02:01 |
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No, since bashing also counts to give you tougher match-ups.
What you really need is a team that neither wins nor bashes.
(I recommend Pro Elves. ) |
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sk8bcn
Joined: Apr 13, 2004
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Jan 06, 2009 - 09:52 |
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Flix, you are at 32/8/6 in overall in Blackbox.
If there was no TS cap, the system would give you more and more tougher matchups until your results stabilize around 50%.
So basically, you will run at TS disadventage often, unless you get an opponent of the same strength as you (so the best BB coaches) |
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westerner
Joined: Jul 02, 2008
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Jan 06, 2009 - 15:40 |
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TS disadvantage can be considered a badge of pride in the Box.  If it happens consistently it means you're a strong coach. |
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PurpleChest
Joined: Oct 25, 2003
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| westerner wrote: | | TS disadvantage can be considered a badge of pride in the Box. If it happens consistently it means you're a strong coach. |
and often means you will be coming back to [R]. |
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johan
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jan 06, 2009 - 16:00 |
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That's my main practical objection to the BR weighing. Even if you're a good coach, getting -10 to -15 TS matches consistently will get old really fast, even if you manage to keep your wins at 50%. This will drive great coaches away from the division, something that surely can't be intended.
I strongly recommend Christer to design the final version to schedule on (race-weighed) TS only. |
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koadah
Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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Jan 06, 2009 - 16:14 |
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johan
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jan 06, 2009 - 16:20 |
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Not likely, since those coaches with a higher BR will most likely be counterbalanced by more coaches with low BR. |
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westerner
Joined: Jul 02, 2008
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Jan 06, 2009 - 16:25 |
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| johan wrote: | That's my main practical objection to the BR weighing. Even if you're a good coach, getting -10 to -15 TS matches consistently will get old really fast, even if you manage to keep your wins at 50%. This will drive great coaches away from the division, something that surely can't be intended.
I strongly recommend Christer to design the final version to schedule on (race-weighed) TS only. |
I think there's very few cases of consistent -10 to -15TS matches. Almost all reported cases of TS-disadvantage I've looked at have averaged out to less than 5TS.
The 50% win philosophy has been effectively discarded by the hard cap of 15TS, and many strong coaches are able to maintain a high winning percentage. For example, using the reported numbers, Flix won 78% of his games. Is [B] totally not fun if you win 78% instead of say 90%? |
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