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How about it?
Awesome!
19%
 19%  [ 9 ]
Lame!
32%
 32%  [ 15 ]
Cool, but it might need some work...
26%
 26%  [ 12 ]
Not interested.
21%
 21%  [ 10 ]
Total Votes : 46


Balle2000



Joined: Sep 25, 2008

Post 16 Posted: Jan 13, 2009 - 06:05 Reply with quote Back to top

Vision time:

Once a year the Empiric heralds travel throughout the Old World, with a decree from the Emperor. The absolute best teams of both divisions are invited to compete against eachother in a breathtaking tournament set in the capitol of Altdorf.

The Emperor presents: The Old World Championship.

The 16 strongest teams from the Blackbox and Ranked circuits are drawn into 8 groups a 4 teams.

Following the group stage is a knock-out grid with the group winners being drawn against the group runner-ups.

The Winners are crowned Old World Champions!



There are already some threads about Tournaments and Championships in Blackbox. And I think that would be awesome.

However this idea is a bit on the side, so instead of derailing the discussion in other threads, I started this one.

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veron



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Post   Posted: Jan 13, 2009 - 06:24 Reply with quote Back to top

Without knowing too much of the technical architecture behind FUMBBL, I am guessing the third option probably should read "Cool, but it might need a lot of work..."
Paragon



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Post   Posted: Jan 13, 2009 - 06:41 Reply with quote Back to top

Even when [B] matures more, the top 16 [B] teams will never be on the same level as the top 16 [R] teams.
Balle2000



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Post   Posted: Jan 13, 2009 - 06:55 Reply with quote Back to top

Paragon wrote:
[B] teams will never be on the same level as the top 16 [R] teams.


Really? Why don't we find out!

EXACTLY what you are saying is one of the reasons why I think this might be an exciting concept.

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Alibaba



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Post   Posted: Jan 13, 2009 - 07:19 Reply with quote Back to top

Dont know exactly how it is build, but I dont think its that much work.
Paragon



Joined: Jun 12, 2005

Post   Posted: Jan 13, 2009 - 07:29 Reply with quote Back to top

Balle2000 wrote:
Paragon wrote:
[B] teams will never be on the same level as the top 16 [R] teams.


Really? Why don't we find out!

EXACTLY what you are saying is one of the reasons why I think this might be an exciting concept.


So you think a team like this (the current highest TS [R] team) could have developed in [B]?
Snappy_Dresser



Joined: Feb 11, 2005

Post   Posted: Jan 13, 2009 - 08:10 Reply with quote Back to top

Balle2000 wrote:
Paragon wrote:
[B] teams will never be on the same level as the top 16 [R] teams.


Really? Why don't we find out!

EXACTLY what you are saying is one of the reasons why I think this might be an exciting concept.


I hear what you're saying, but the differential in difficulty in building a team between the two divisions is so large (the wood elf team above has never played an Orc, Chaos Dwarf, Khemri, or Dwarf team. Ever), it wouldn't even be interesting, unless ranked spotted some pretty huge handicaps (or started playing real blood bowl en masse Very Happy).

There are more than a few teams at the higher levels that the coaches just pull out and dust off for majors in Ranked. How can teams that get put on the line regularly compete with that?

Frankly, those Ranked Coaches that want real competition already play in Black Box anyway.

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CircularLogic



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Post   Posted: Jan 13, 2009 - 09:16 Reply with quote Back to top

Snappy_Dresser wrote:
Frankly, those Ranked Coaches that want real competition already play in Black Box anyway.


No they don`t.
PurpleChest



Joined: Oct 25, 2003

Post   Posted: Jan 13, 2009 - 09:19
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CircularLogic wrote:
Snappy_Dresser wrote:
Frankly, those Ranked Coaches that want real competition already play in Black Box anyway.


No they don`t.


In fact the opposite. they come back to R and play lovely tournaments.

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p4m



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Post   Posted: Jan 13, 2009 - 09:23 Reply with quote Back to top

Paragon wrote:
Balle2000 wrote:
Paragon wrote:
[B] teams will never be on the same level as the top 16 [R] teams.


Really? Why don't we find out!

EXACTLY what you are saying is one of the reasons why I think this might be an exciting concept.


So you think a team like this (the current highest TS [R] team) could have developed in [B]?


althought it migth be extremyl difficult, even in [R] its not likely to have a team like this, this is '08-BDay-team. you cant compare things uncompareble
t0xic



Joined: Dec 06, 2004

Post   Posted: Jan 13, 2009 - 09:37 Reply with quote Back to top

Hrm... I dunno if it could be developed in B
But if the coach wanted to play one of my top B teams i would be glad to trimm them down a bit Twisted Evil
pythrr



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Post   Posted: Jan 13, 2009 - 09:45 Reply with quote Back to top

lets face it, R teams are going to be much bigger because you can dodge the evil 6 dp chaos or khemri teams....

two very different worlds in which to team-build

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Balle2000



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Post   Posted: Jan 13, 2009 - 11:06 Reply with quote Back to top

Ok so it might be hard developing such teams outside the field of Cherry Trees that is [R]anked.

But does it stand a chance against the hardest Dwarf or Chaos Dwarf teams in the Box?

I have my doubts, and I would love to see the cherry pickers put their teams where their mouths are.

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Ehlers



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Post   Posted: Jan 13, 2009 - 11:12 Reply with quote Back to top

R = Cherry Pickers

Pure 100% known fact

B = Real compitition where all games are fair

Pure 100% known fact

Nice real fact there... O.o
torsoboy



Joined: Nov 23, 2004

Post   Posted: Jan 13, 2009 - 11:21 Reply with quote Back to top

Balle2000 wrote:
Ok so it might be hard developing such teams outside the field of Cherry Trees that is [R]anked.

But does it stand a chance against the hardest Dwarf or Chaos Dwarf teams in the Box?

I have my doubts, and I would love to see the cherry pickers put their teams where their mouths are.

My guess is that you haven't seen the cherrypicking chaos teams of doom from R yet. Although I must say they have been AWOL for a bit.

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