Mordachai
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Nov 25, 2003 - 22:46 |
 
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Boohoo... they don't need a big guy. I wouldn't mind seeing amazons with one though... hehe. |
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SnakeSanders
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Nov 25, 2003 - 22:50 |
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the unicorn for zons was great.... if somewhat broken! |
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Mr-Klipp
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Nov 25, 2003 - 23:26 |
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And Khemri are still allowed 4 Mummies and 2 Blitzers with ST skills.... BAH!!!!! |
Two words. Ag 2. |
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Sionis
Joined: Aug 26, 2003
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Nov 25, 2003 - 23:38 |
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Only 2 wights for the necromatic team... bunch of crap if you ask me. |
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UrienRakarth
Joined: Sep 04, 2003
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Nov 25, 2003 - 23:39 |
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But khemri is a bashy team, they don't need to take the ball!  |
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Lazerus101
Joined: Nov 07, 2003
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Nov 25, 2003 - 23:58 |
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Ive never understood werewolves not having regen.... Suddenly all BB players wear silver gauntlets??? |
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boobis
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Nov 26, 2003 - 00:03 |
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What about the, in my mind, funny wording on wild animals moving first? Do they have to or not? |
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Zhluhur
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Nov 26, 2003 - 00:05 |
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you don't? 
My elve-team in DivX ist changed automaticly from leap to NOS. I did not have a player with that skill before, so I don't know what would have happened
with it.
Khemri are not that good anymore because Piling on changed. 4 Mummies with PO and MB was too good in the old rules. |
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Petter
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Nov 26, 2003 - 00:47 |
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| Mr-Klipp wrote: | | Revener wrote: |
And Khemri are still allowed 4 Mummies and 2 Blitzers with ST skills.... BAH!!!!! |
Two words. Ag 2. |
Two words. Team wrecking.
Most of the teams I ever had would (A) Win a game vs Khemri unless they had kickass injury rolls early on and (B) Pay for the win with permanent injuries.
Khemri might be fun to play, but it's not really fun to play *against*.
It might be an easy win, but the cost is too high. |
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Petter
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Nov 26, 2003 - 00:50 |
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It's also rather discouraging to the the RC find WA in more need of change than RSC. I might have misunderstood their rather blurry wording, but it appears WA are now not worth the money. Unless they will lower their cost by 50% or more?
It's not like playing with a WA was an easy game as it were. Maybe they're removing the Big Guy trait from the WA as well? Not that it would make any sense whatsoever. |
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Mazzix
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Nov 26, 2003 - 01:10 |
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I think the wight rule isnt good. Seems a bit unfair for them, but im not sure, never played Necro's.
Pilling On, I never used it, I think it can be good. It was obviously too abusive before...
WA... Wa... wa... well, I dont like the new WA rule, but its an intelligent one anyway. WA's were sure to move each turn, only that they moved first and were dangerous. Bu keeping them behind was meaning not suffering a disadvantage but a good advantage to blitz out of the field the opponent. I think its not that bad... but only time will tell and i'll need a lot of proofs!!!
Finally, I dont see anyone talking about it but... Flings no longer has the ogres... Flings with rooted trees will really suffer. If there is one race that lose with those changes, its the Flings. At least, they could have changed the Take Root rule... |
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Grod
Joined: Sep 30, 2003
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Nov 26, 2003 - 01:11 |
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Are you kidding. Wild animals just became useful! No more mino traps...
They are still one of the only big guys that can throw a block without having to roll first. They will have to be used differently now, thats all. No longer useful for blitzing (because of the 50% chance it wont work), but very useful as a front line troop where he can block to his hearts content every turn, and if he does become trapped, he DOESNT have to throw a block. At least thats how I read the new WA description. It seems they still have to move first tho. Cant have everything. |
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Grod
Joined: Sep 30, 2003
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Nov 26, 2003 - 01:14 |
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Quickly everyone, get pro for all your big guys before javabowl is updated... |
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RIPNE1
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Nov 26, 2003 - 01:31 |
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yeah, WA change is good in IMO they can block without a roll and still can move 50% of the time to get next to someone so they can subsequently block them... Rat ogre have prehensile tail too don't forget so people are unlikely to be dodging away! |
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Cortex
Joined: Sep 25, 2003
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Nov 26, 2003 - 01:54 |
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The new WA rules make sense. The Mino/Rat Ogre being an unreliable blitzer (or ballcarrier, etc..) reflects very well the unpredictable nature of a wild animal. They become blockers now, just as the other big guys (ok, the horns on the mino lose a lot of their interest). This will certainly change the style of play for a lot of teams, but I think the effective removal of the wild animal trap more than compensates for this. Besides, wa's can now receive assists in blocking, so they're no longer on their own against tougher opponents. The change is not bad, it injects new tactical possibilities in the game.
Piling on has been toned down, which will hopefully change the (understandable) general attitude of most coaches now. Pilers should be able to get more games in the future. Also interesting: piling on is now equally good for a big guy or a stunty str2 critter... Stunty coaches will just love this
The changes are there, whining about them won't change anything, so let's just be curious to see their consequences. |
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