DukeTyrion
Joined: Feb 18, 2004
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Feb 04, 2009 - 11:09 |
 
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After having taken a mini-break I came back to discover that the games in Blackbox have dropped off quite alot.
Now, it might be because of the Major taking place, or it could be that the new toy syndrome has gone, but I wonder if Blackbox having a lack of a target has had any impact on this.
Now that BR is no longer part of the scheduling formula, there is no real reason for it to remain hidden. Could we therefore perhaps show this ranking to at least give coaches something to track their progress on?
I know others will have thought for Majors and the like, but does anyone else agree that showing BR might actually give B games more meaning?
(On a different subject, I personally get very frustrated activating one team, yet being forced to play another. I understand the reasoning behind it, but have trimmed my Blackbox teams down to 1 to avoid this happening) |
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Balle2000
Joined: Sep 25, 2008
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Feb 04, 2009 - 11:29 |
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Duke, I was just thinking the same.
At present BlackBox is a little bit like [U], only with automatic scheduling.
A BR list would be a great start and I imagine easy to implement.
(I think you should bring the activation question up separately). |
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Enar
Joined: Mar 05, 2004
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Feb 04, 2009 - 11:39 |
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Doesn't look to be related to anything in particular. Most likely there was a lot of games played initally, now the fad is cooling down, to eventually pan out and stabilize, at what level remains to be seen. Noteworthy is that last week was the 4:th time in BBox history with an increase in games played compared to the former week (and that includes the obvious 1:st week) |
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Lithuran
Joined: Jun 01, 2007
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Feb 04, 2009 - 11:56 |
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I've created a goal of having an active team with the most spare cash.
I'm winning so far!!! |
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odi
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Feb 04, 2009 - 12:04 |
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Or we could have a monthly competition on who is highest in the championship, with only BDiv games played (since B games seem to count for that). Why go back to ranked since we got B! |
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clarkin
Joined: Oct 15, 2007
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Feb 04, 2009 - 12:15 |
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Agreed. Now it's not part of the scheduler it would be great to see your BR (w/ a seperate blackbox coach standing page) and/or a B only monthly championship. |
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Qaz
Joined: Apr 28, 2004
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Feb 04, 2009 - 12:51 |
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Jay for [R] the devision we all like to hate but in the end we all come crawling back to it! |
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Cloggy
Joined: Sep 23, 2004
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Feb 04, 2009 - 12:53 |
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| odi wrote: | | Or we could have a monthly competition on who is highest in the championship, with only BDiv games played (since B games seem to count for that). Why go back to ranked since we got B! |
One question mark with this idea: I think the championship table still uses the [R] CR to calculate the difficulty of your games. If BR was used I'd like your idea, but with CR in the equation I think it doesn't work. |
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maznaz
Joined: Jan 26, 2004
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Feb 04, 2009 - 12:59 |
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Development stalled on B for a long time (a busy time of year and only Christer is able to work on it) and there were outstanding problems that were possibly blown out of proportion. I do think B needs an individual team rating (this could be used as the basis for racial ladders and one global team ladder) that would incentivise winning, racial diversity and just make the place more fun. |
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sk8bcn
Joined: Apr 13, 2004
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Feb 04, 2009 - 14:04 |
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I think majors has to do with it too. When you play a major, you have to build your team.
Then, we are doing some bad advertising for blackbox.
Whinge, whinge, always Khemris and dorfs...
Whinge, whinge, nothing to win...
Tactical threads about the cheapest way to spare some TS...
Of course, I'm guilty of such whinging too but if you don't try Blackbox, what do you think?
It's a division full of lame massive DP cherrypickers who tries at everycost to exploit a TS formula.
Which is, of course, not what I live here. |
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Balle2000
Joined: Sep 25, 2008
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Feb 04, 2009 - 14:12 |
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| maznaz wrote: | | I do think B needs an individual team rating (this could be used as the basis for racial ladders and one global team ladder) that would incentivise winning, racial diversity and just make the place more fun. |
Best idea I've heard so far. |
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PurpleChest
Joined: Oct 25, 2003
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| sk8bcn wrote: | ....Then, we are doing some bad advertising for blackbox.
........
... but if you don't try Blackbox, what do you think?...
It's a division full of lame massive DP cherrypickers who tries at everycost to exploit a TS formula. |
yup. Since the BR left it appeals a lot more, but that perception is keeping me out certainly.
just seems 0 fun. Full of min/maxing psychotic fouly McKillathon coaches that revel in being unable to be avoided while seeking to exploit any loophole they can, to still be gaining any small advantage they can eeek out of the system. |
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sk8bcn
Joined: Apr 13, 2004
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Feb 04, 2009 - 14:45 |
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| PurpleChest wrote: | | sk8bcn wrote: | ....Then, we are doing some bad advertising for blackbox.
........
... but if you don't try Blackbox, what do you think?...
It's a division full of lame massive DP cherrypickers who tries at everycost to exploit a TS formula. |
yup. Since the BR left it appeals a lot more, but that perception is keeping me out certainly.
just seems 0 fun. Full of min/maxing psychotic fouly McKillathon coaches that revel in being unable to be avoided while seeking to exploit any loophole they can, to still be gaining any small advantage they can eeek out of the system. |
Bah so far, I haven't encountered so many guys of this type. So far, I am satisfied. Ok, I don't play that much elfbowl so far, but:
>The best coaches don't do TS optimisation (the biggest option is to play without rerolls and I don't imagine the best coaches accepting to rely on luck. And when facing them, if you force them to roll, you can take over the TS advantage. (except flings who steals your own rerolls)
>The foulers and team killers are a minority. Well, I don't know at high TS, but in 25 games, I haven't played one yet.
>What a pleasure not to have to select an opponent for all those:
-Am I cherrypicking?
-beeing the cherry?
-Is he too good for me to play at 10 TS down
-It's a recovery, this 170 will best me out with my small squad
and so on, and so...
I love Blackbox |
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Eddy
Joined: Aug 04, 2004
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Feb 04, 2009 - 14:53 |
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| PurpleChest wrote: | | just seems 0 fun. Full of min/maxing psychotic fouly McKillathon coaches that revel in being unable to be avoided while seeking to exploit any loophole they can, to still be gaining any small advantage they can eeek out of the system. |
Well, take me for example. I think "playing TS" is ok. I argued for it at length in the other thread.
And yet, look at my teams. Maybe i'm mistaken, and you WILL find them abusive and 0 fun, but i don't think so. And we are quite a lot like that. You get to face the odd jerk, like everywhere, but generally, it's a nice place. |
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Pirog
Joined: Jul 13, 2006
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Feb 04, 2009 - 15:39 |
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The teamwreckers might be a problem. I haven't met many of them so far, but it would probably be enough to be forced through a couple of matches in a row against heavy fouling multi-dp teams for my interest to run dry.
The downside is that activity in League is lower than ever and Ranked has just become a despicable place where I often spend 20-25 minutes without getting a single match that I feel is a fair match-up, so if my interest in Blackbox is wrecked I'm a bit worried that I might lose interest in Fumbbl alltogether.
I would really, really like to see that merge between U and L and private tournaments in Stunty league.
Well, this really has nothing to do with the Blackbox division... |
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