Snappy_Dresser
Joined: Feb 11, 2005
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Mar 18, 2009 - 22:54 |
 
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| koadah wrote: | | Snappy_Dresser wrote: | All of the problems presented with a major in [B] only apply if a team enters the major (as opposed to a coach with all his teams). I'm inclined to implement majors with, say, a 5 team minimum (from all different "categories") for entry, and let the one team coaches continue to play in the basic box.
As for championships (only the best coaches get in to the majors), I like that idea too, but it proved very unpopular the last time it was presented. |
People who don't like Majors don't have to play in them.
People who don't like the Championship don't have to take any notice of it.
It pretty much works already just needs an option to filter out [R] results. |
I don't think you read my post. Or possibly you quoted the wrong one? |
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sk8bcn
Joined: Apr 13, 2004
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Mar 18, 2009 - 23:30 |
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| Snappy_Dresser wrote: | | koadah wrote: | | Snappy_Dresser wrote: | All of the problems presented with a major in [B] only apply if a team enters the major (as opposed to a coach with all his teams). I'm inclined to implement majors with, say, a 5 team minimum (from all different "categories") for entry, and let the one team coaches continue to play in the basic box.
As for championships (only the best coaches get in to the majors), I like that idea too, but it proved very unpopular the last time it was presented. |
People who don't like Majors don't have to play in them.
People who don't like the Championship don't have to take any notice of it.
It pretty much works already just needs an option to filter out [R] results. |
I don't think you read my post. Or possibly you quoted the wrong one? |
I must say I did not understand it. |
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Zero1BB
Joined: Feb 18, 2009
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Mar 19, 2009 - 08:26 |
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Ultimately I think the box is fine as is. All it really needs is for more coaches to man up and stop being scared to play games they may lose a couple of players or just not win. |
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Cloggy
Joined: Sep 23, 2004
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Mar 19, 2009 - 08:31 |
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| Zero1BB wrote: | | Ultimately I think the box is fine as is. All it really needs is for more coaches to man up and stop being scared to play games they may lose a couple of players or just not win. |
If you still think a lack of balls is the only reason why people don't play there you are sadly mistaken and have not read any of the threads about the subject. Believe me, there are plenty. Just take a day off and read them. |
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sk8bcn
Joined: Apr 13, 2004
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Mar 19, 2009 - 11:40 |
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| Cloggy wrote: | | Zero1BB wrote: | | Ultimately I think the box is fine as is. All it really needs is for more coaches to man up and stop being scared to play games they may lose a couple of players or just not win. |
If you still think a lack of balls is the only reason why people don't play there you are sadly mistaken and have not read any of the threads about the subject. Believe me, there are plenty. Just take a day off and read them. |
Let's take the maschism part away.
IMO, the box will never that many players down there. Whatever what is in it. Most of things have been fixed.
The 2 major point that may be labelled as remaining are:
->Not to have to play with all teams.
->Have tournaments
Both which you can discuss about their pro and cons.
Now past that, you need a specific mindset about playing here (eg, about team building, suffering cas and from time to time, matches that can be unfair -what doesn't make the division unfair, actually, as it is fairer than Ranked-)
Then because of that requiered mindset, the division won't get past ranked anyhow.
For exemple, whatever happens in B, I think you will never belong to B players because it doesn't fit your character, Cloggy. |
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westerner
Joined: Jul 02, 2008
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Mar 19, 2009 - 15:10 |
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| Zero1BB wrote: | | Ultimately I think the box is fine as is. All it really needs is for more coaches to man up and stop being scared to play games they may lose a couple of players or just not win. |
Whatever the reasons, you can't force other people to play. There was a poll on what might encourage coaches to play more B and several of those options have been discussed in this thread. |
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Molt
Joined: Aug 04, 2003
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Jun 01, 2009 - 08:35 |
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For what its worth as a newcomer what has attracted me to black box is facing a random opponent of broadly similar team strength without having to read through rosters and message people begging for games.
Not choosing which team I play with seems to have little to do with it. Allowing coaches to rest any of their teams if they don't feel like playing with them in no way hurts the spirit of the game
I think 15 min activation timer should be used if not enough coaches are there for the 30min one. Its frustrating having to wait a full 30mins for another game to start. (thats why i'm sat here reading this!) |
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sk8bcn
Joined: Apr 13, 2004
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Jun 01, 2009 - 12:53 |
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| Molt wrote: | | (thats why i'm sat here reading this!) |
you see, you can always find something positive in a bad sitution  |
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odi
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jun 01, 2009 - 14:01 |
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What we would need for B is more coaches... But I dont have a solution to that problem  |
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Shrap
Joined: Sep 18, 2006
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Jun 01, 2009 - 16:38 |
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you could have the whole year count as a tourney....with a min number of teams played maybe....winner gets a potion. |
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arw
Joined: Jan 07, 2007
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Jun 01, 2009 - 17:16 |
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| Shrap wrote: | | you could have the whole year count as a tourney....with a min number of teams played maybe....winner gets a potion. |
This idea could be modified but the essence- a price for winning regular games in BBox- isn't bad at all:
Seconded!
A year is too long though and the price should definitely be a BBox price - not to be used for non-BBox teams.
Nonetheless merging F and B would be way cooler...
To get more players to BBox however is not only about improving BBox. The most reliable way would be degenerating Ranked I guess ^^
On top of it we have to face the fact that BBox did the opposite: it improved Ranked!
Maybe it is just my personal impression. I came to believe that Ranked isn't that full of Sissies anymore! |
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Molt
Joined: Aug 04, 2003
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Jun 05, 2009 - 03:23 |
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This is my solution:
My opinion is this:
Put an "Activate random team" link on the teams page that a coach can click. This will enter all your teams to the box without any preference weighting. Alternatively click the "activate" link next to your team (as before) to guarantee playing that particylar team. As an incentive to help get good matchups, give coaches with 3 or more teams an extra 10k winnings if they choose the random option.
Also allow coaches to rest 1 team for every 5 they own. |
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hellvis
Joined: Apr 23, 2009
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Jun 05, 2009 - 04:47 |
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| TheCetusProject wrote: | | Rather than transfer from B to R, why not just make R tournaments open to B teams as well? |
10000000 times this!
I would only play in [B] and [L] if this was possible.
I am also for graphical accolades, fluff and have a minimum number of different (in playing style) teams in order to play in [B].
I am totally against the use of TV (or TR for that matter) instead of TS though and also against not being able to indicate the preferable team. |
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sk8bcn
Joined: Apr 13, 2004
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Jun 05, 2009 - 10:57 |
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eyeslikethunder
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jun 05, 2009 - 11:03 |
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I would add higher minimum teams per coach and make them of different types to add a bit diversity to B. After all there is no bravery in just playing orcs |
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