Cloggy
Joined: Sep 23, 2004
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Mar 05, 2009 - 12:42 |
 
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| Fela wrote: | | Cloggy wrote: | The only thing that would make me use the Blackbox would be as a sort of 1 game instant tourney in the [R]anked division.
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Somehow I can't see how totally negating any point of the box (a place where dodging opponents and cherrypicking is hard to almost impossible) would make much sense. |
Well, a sI said I think the scheduling principle of the box has matured quite nicely. Personally I like my old teams and my metagaming projects too much to switch divisions. This makes it very unlikely that I will use the Box as a scheduling mechanism unless it comes into [R]. The scheduler is good enough now that I would use it a lot in [R] if possible, but playing in the [B] division does not make sense to me personally.
That is no dig at the division, the people who play there or the merits of the scheduler. |
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sk8bcn
Joined: Apr 13, 2004
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Mar 05, 2009 - 13:47 |
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| Balle2000 wrote: | TOURNAMENTS
Coaches: spubbbba, Rijssiej, xcver |
Pro
| Quote: | AWARDS
Coaches: spubbbba, Rijssiej, xcver |
Pro
| Quote: | Possibility to select a number of your teams for the draw
Coaches: jarvis_pants, Rijssiej, |
Pro
| Quote: | Percentage cap on TS difference
Coaches: Tinkywinky, Rijssiej, |
Against. TS lose accuracy at high TS. I just don't want to play at 30 TS diff at high TS when the values are getting less and less accurate.
| Quote: | Use LRB5 TV instead of TS for match calculation (if possible)
Coaches: Rijssiej, xcver, |
Totally against.
| Quote: | Allow team transfer between [B] and [R] (both ways)
Coaches: Rijssiej, |
As Duke said, I don't want to see it too. Possible destructive possibility.
| Quote: | Percentage cap on TS difference with max diff.
Coaches: xcver, [/size] |
Probably against. Indeed, when more teams are available, it's more likely for one to get a fair draw. I'd rather have a 10-15 ts gap than not beeing scheduled. So 15 seems ok to me. |
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sk8bcn
Joined: Apr 13, 2004
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Mar 05, 2009 - 13:51 |
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SillySod
Joined: Oct 10, 2006
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Mar 05, 2009 - 13:54 |
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How about we bring back the BWR factors in the matchup formula?  |
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pythrr
Joined: Mar 07, 2006
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Mar 05, 2009 - 14:01 |
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hehe.
die silleh! |
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koadah
Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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Mar 05, 2009 - 14:03 |
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PurpleChest
Joined: Oct 25, 2003
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Im with cloggy, while i am not likely to make B my main gaming division, i would use a blackboxlike feature in R a lot, though not exclusively.
I see no reason why that would need to alter B in any though. |
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Oli_B
Joined: Apr 24, 2006
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Mar 05, 2009 - 14:34 |
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The main improvement I would make would be to allow scheduling of matches where there are 4 or 5 coaches activated.
Many of the other things would help but I see reliably getting games as the main factor. |
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koadah
Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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Mar 05, 2009 - 14:39 |
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| PurpleChest wrote: | Im with cloggy, while i am not likely to make B my main gaming division, i would use a blackboxlike feature in R a lot, though not exclusively.
I see no reason why that would need to alter B in any though. |
You would lose the coaches who just want 'quick match'. So less chance of having enough coaches/teams to make it work. |
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Bill_Vestergaard
Joined: Dec 16, 2007
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Mar 05, 2009 - 14:55 |
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I would love to see tourneys in blackbox, sign me up. 
Sign me up for the transfer of ranked teams to blackbox. The way I see it, it would be nice to have a short period of time( like a week) to get some teams from ranked into blackbox. After that, then make transfers impossible again. The reason why? Well I have some teams in ranked that I like very much and if I can't play them in blackbox, then I have to stay in ranked adn therefore not play in blackbox. |
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KhorneliusPraxx
Joined: Jul 28, 2005
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Mar 05, 2009 - 15:03 |
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I have said it a millions times...Black Box should not be a seperate division. There are too many divisions already. Black Box should be a feature of Ranked. The Death Valley Daze would be playing a random team everytime they played if it was a feature of the Ranked Division but I'm not going to ignore my real team in order to play in a minor division. |
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westerner
Joined: Jul 02, 2008
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Mar 05, 2009 - 15:47 |
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| koadah wrote: | | You would lose the coaches who just want 'quick match'. So less chance of having enough coaches/teams to make it work. |
Not necessarily. I think most of the current coaches in [B] are just looking for a quick and competitive match. That could happen via an [R] blackbox just as well, except that you'd lose the ability to easily compare blackboxing teams against their peer group.
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My main concern in [B] is the difficulty in actually getting a game lately. I usually sign on to fumbbl at :25 or :55 to catch the [B] round. But if that round and the next pass without a match I'll go to [R]. And sometimes while playing [R] I'll see [B] rounds go by with 5 coaches  , but dems the breaks. |
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SillySod
Joined: Oct 10, 2006
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Mar 05, 2009 - 15:54 |
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| koadah wrote: | Let me guess. Silly likes ringing door bells then running away  |
Theres a definate element of that - I dont think this thread will tell us much more that the last twenty odd. However, I genuinely prefered it when the ranking was part of the formula |
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NNNChef
Joined: Dec 09, 2003
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Mar 07, 2009 - 19:20 |
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Please no transfer between [R] and [B]. People who don't have the guts to build up a team in [B] are not worth to play it. I would like to see in the first post of this thread not only the votings for a suggestion but also votings against suggestions. Otherwise a reader of it gets a wrong impression. |
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Jon_Guitard
Joined: Feb 27, 2009
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Mar 07, 2009 - 19:56 |
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Since we're doing a show of hands here. Make B count for rating. Finish any debugging final touches, then organize some tournaments. It's reasonably safe to say IMO, that despite it's detractors, blackbox has a strong and devoted following. It's time to take it from experiment to actual membership.
I would agree that you could one time transfer from B to R, but not the other way. That way if your team got pasted by a few unlucky matches in B, you wouldn't feel the need to just retire them. I agree that allowing R to B would just lead to cherry picked uber teams jumping in. That, IMO, is counter to the concept of blackbox. |
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