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Balle2000



Joined: Sep 25, 2008

Post 3 Posted: Mar 05, 2009 - 08:35 Reply with quote Back to top

---- 5 of the suggestions made in this thread have been implemented in Blackbox (refer to the bottom of this post).

Bettering Blaxkbox wrote:
There's a lot of talk in the different channels and threads of possible improvements for the Blackbox Division.

Thought it might be useful for the site operator(s) if we summarized all those ideas that we coaches long bomb around here on Fumbbl, in one positive and helpful thread.

Post what you think would improve the Blackbox Division (if you like with a small explanation why, but keep it simple).

Also feel free to add your name to the already listed suggestions, and I'll try to update this first post with "signatures" of those who support the specific improvements.

No need to state which suggestions you don't support, as silence is gold.

Suggestions sorted by number of supporters (seconded suggestions in bold).



Suggestions so far:

Awards, Medals, graphical accolades
Coaches: spubbbba, Rijssiej, xcver, sk8bcn, soultoken, Mnemon, orangetruck, Nantti, odi, BillBrasky, johan, Snappy_Dresser, arw, hellvis,

More Rankings in Blackbox Central! -- Coaches (championship), race-specific, teams, players -- all-time & periodical
Coaches: Mnemon, EvolveToAnarchism, orangetruck, Nantti, Jon_Guitard, BillBrasky, johan, Snappy_Dresser, Rijssiej, koadah, Rawlf,

Require a minimum number of activated teams per player based on playing styles (e.g. X bashers, X passers, X runners)
Coaches: BillBrasky, Snappy_Dresser, Kondor, arw, Molt, eyeslikethunder,

Percentage cap on TS difference (as opposed to the current numerical cap)
Coaches: Tinkywinky, Rijssiej, xcver, Irgy, johan,

Allow "retirement transfer" of teams from Blackbox to [R] and/or [L]
Coaches: Jon_Guitard, koadah, odi,

A one time amnesty for [R] to [B] team transfers
Coaches: Bill_Vestergaard, Mnemon, J_K_B,

LRB5 Team Value* instead of TS for match calculation (* might be hard to implement)
Coaches: Rijssiej, xcver, Irgy,

Monthly SuperBowl between the top 2 [B] teams
Coaches: BillBrasky, InkRose, Nextflux,

Fluff!
Coaches: orangetruck, Nextflux, hellvis,

A one time amnesty for [L] to [B] team transfers
Coaches: EvolveToAnarchism, BillBrasky,


Suggestions not yet seconded:

Allow team transfer between [ B] and [R] (both ways)
Coaches: Rijssiej,

Lower fixed cap on TS difference
Coaches: CircularLogic,

Difficulty options for playing up/down TS for awards
Coaches: arw,

Merge [F] with [ B]
Coaches: arw,

Full coach standings in Blackbox Central
Coaches: sk8bcn,




IMPLEMENTED CHANGES
More match draws per hour (if/when numbers allow it)
Coaches: Pulpo_Fiction, Snappy_Dresser, Molt,

Lower the minimum coach limit
Coaches: Oli_B, Titon, raw, johan, arv9673,

Tournaments
Coaches: spubbbba, Rijssiej, xcver, sk8bcn, Bill_Vestergaard, Jon_Guitard, Reisender, soultoken, Mnemon, Nantti, odi, Titon, BillBrasky, johan, Tinkywinky, Nextflux, Snappy_Dresser,

Possibility to select a number of your teams for the draw
Coaches: jarvis_pants, Rijssiej, sk8bcn, koadah, InkRose, soultoken, BillBrasky, johan, Zero1BB, Molt,

Give [B] teams access to [R] tournaments
Coaches: koadah, TheCetusProject, westerner, Irgy, BillBrasky, hellvis,


Last edited by Balle2000 on Nov 01, 2014 - 07:03; edited 49 times in total
spubbbba



Joined: Jul 31, 2006

Post   Posted: Mar 05, 2009 - 08:55 Reply with quote Back to top

Well for me the biggest reason is the lack of tournaments.

I'm not going to start retiring my [R] teams to replace them with [B] equivalents until there is some sort of point to [B]. Making it count for awards would be nice as well.

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jarvis_pants



Joined: Oct 30, 2008

Post   Posted: Mar 05, 2009 - 09:02
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Option to choose which team/teams get entered into the box.

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CircularLogic



Joined: Aug 22, 2003

Post   Posted: Mar 05, 2009 - 09:19 Reply with quote Back to top

Reducing the TS cap to 10.
Tinkywinky



Joined: Aug 25, 2003

Post   Posted: Mar 05, 2009 - 09:47 Reply with quote Back to top

CircularLogic wrote:
Reducing the TS cap to 10.


Percentage would be better no? 10% cap for example.

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Nemeton



Joined: Dec 13, 2004

Post   Posted: Mar 05, 2009 - 09:56 Reply with quote Back to top

Tinkywinky wrote:
CircularLogic wrote:
Reducing the TS cap to 10.


Percentage would be better no? 10% cap for example.


That would for most games, INCREASE the TS cap - since it would only require more than 150 TS to allow for a bigger difference than the current 15. It would only reduce the TS difference in the first few games.
Rijssiej



Joined: Jan 04, 2005

Post   Posted: Mar 05, 2009 - 10:36 Reply with quote Back to top

1) Use TV (without cash) instead of TS for matching.
2) Allow transfer between Blackbox and Ranked (both ways).

Add my name to: tournaments, awards, Possibility to select a number of your teams for the draw and Percentage cap on TS difference.
Tinkywinky



Joined: Aug 25, 2003

Post   Posted: Mar 05, 2009 - 10:39 Reply with quote Back to top

Nemeton wrote:
Tinkywinky wrote:
CircularLogic wrote:
Reducing the TS cap to 10.


Percentage would be better no? 10% cap for example.


That would for most games, INCREASE the TS cap - since it would only require more than 150 TS to allow for a bigger difference than the current 15. It would only reduce the TS difference in the first few games.


10 ts cap limit at 230 ts doesn't seem realistic if you want games to be played. Also 23 ts at that level isn't the end of the world

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DukeTyrion



Joined: Feb 18, 2004

Post   Posted: Mar 05, 2009 - 10:56 Reply with quote Back to top

Rijssiej wrote:

2) Allow transfer between Blackbox and Ranked (both ways).


If that happened, I would stop playing Blackbox.

The last thing we need is pimped teams from Ranked entering the box, then going back when they think they need to recover.
pythrr



Joined: Mar 07, 2006

Post   Posted: Mar 05, 2009 - 11:11 Reply with quote Back to top

where is the "less whining" poll option?

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xcver



Joined: Mar 10, 2005

Post   Posted: Mar 05, 2009 - 11:22 Reply with quote Back to top

I'm in with tournaments and Awards as well as use TV (without cash = LRB5) instead of TS

Also I would like the TS cap being 5% of both TS added with a minimum difference of 10.

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Cloggy



Joined: Sep 23, 2004

Post   Posted: Mar 05, 2009 - 11:34 Reply with quote Back to top

The only thing that would make me use the Blackbox would be as a sort of 1 game instant tourney in the [R]anked division.

I don't see the added value of having a separate division myself. especially since many of the points mentioned as improvements to [B] bring it closer to [R] anyway.

Other than that I have to say that the evolution of the blackbox scheduler looks very good indeed. I rarely spot total mismatches in the games page anymore anf it would seem like the system is about ready to leave the trial phase.

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Tinkywinky



Joined: Aug 25, 2003

Post   Posted: Mar 05, 2009 - 12:13 Reply with quote Back to top

I like TV instead of TS too.

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Fela



Joined: Dec 27, 2004

Post   Posted: Mar 05, 2009 - 12:23 Reply with quote Back to top

Cloggy wrote:
The only thing that would make me use the Blackbox would be as a sort of 1 game instant tourney in the [R]anked division.


Somehow I can't see how totally negating any point of the box (a place where dodging opponents and cherrypicking is hard to almost impossible) would make much sense.
Rijssiej



Joined: Jan 04, 2005

Post   Posted: Mar 05, 2009 - 12:40 Reply with quote Back to top

Fela wrote:
Cloggy wrote:
The only thing that would make me use the Blackbox would be as a sort of 1 game instant tourney in the [R]anked division.


Somehow I can't see how totally negating any point of the box (a place where dodging opponents and cherrypicking is hard to almost impossible) would make much sense.


Maybe you got the point wrong.
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