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freak_in_a_frock



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Jun 26, 2009 - 10:28 Reply with quote Back to top

http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=match&op=view&id=2733217
http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=match&op=view&id=2733063
http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=match&op=view&id=2731400

Those were my last 3 matches due to me haveing a much higher TS than TR. It's making it very hard to use a necro team in the division. For the record they had dificulty ratings of 25.37, 40.44 and 37.18 respectivily.

I'm not complaining as such, since it has made the games very challenging, and therefore great fun, and in all honesty i should make more than one team if i want fairer matches.

Oh, and as i recall the C.dorf match was @670ish and the ogre was @850ish
CircularLogic



Joined: Aug 22, 2003

Post   Posted: Jun 26, 2009 - 10:46 Reply with quote Back to top

What do you mean by 'dificulty ratings'?
freak_in_a_frock



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Jun 26, 2009 - 10:52 Reply with quote Back to top

In the matches screen on your profile it has a rating of how difficult the game was, simlilar to the rating for race vs race in the stats page. I think this is how it works anyway. So a perfect match up of combined race/TS/CR would give a 50 rating, higher is easier, and lower is harder.

For example Zons vs dwarves at TS 90-110 is at a difficulty rating of 43.48 for the zons.

I might have mistaken what this rating is on the matches page though, but i can't see what else it could relate to
CircularLogic



Joined: Aug 22, 2003

Post   Posted: Jun 26, 2009 - 11:33 Reply with quote Back to top

You mean http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=matches&coach=4203 ??

I cannot see such a rating.
freak_in_a_frock



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Jun 26, 2009 - 14:16 Reply with quote Back to top

Sorry it must be an Admin tool, i wasn't aware that it wasn't available to the public.
ibambe



Joined: Jun 27, 2005

Post   Posted: Jun 26, 2009 - 14:45 Reply with quote Back to top

TheCetusProject wrote:
Why when assessing matchups do we not check if the match would be better without handicaps, and if it is better without handicaps just disable handicaps for that match?


Cause thems ain't the rules.
funnyfingers



Joined: Nov 13, 2005

Post   Posted: Jun 26, 2009 - 14:47 Reply with quote Back to top

freak_in_a_frock wrote:
Sorry it must be an Admin tool, i wasn't aware that it wasn't available to the public.


Uh oh you done opened up a can of worms? When's the thread going to open up requesting access to the difficulty rating?
Arlecchino



Joined: Feb 03, 2004

Post   Posted: Jun 26, 2009 - 16:21 Reply with quote Back to top

I WANT TO SEE THE DIFFICUL RATING OF ALL MY GAMES NOW!
On1



Joined: Jul 12, 2004

Post   Posted: Jun 26, 2009 - 16:34 Reply with quote Back to top

How do i become an admin... can you give me some pointers?
Mnemon



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Jun 26, 2009 - 16:40 Reply with quote Back to top

Roll doubles, choose nerves of steel. And that's only the minimum requirement.
sk8bcn



Joined: Apr 13, 2004

Post   Posted: Jun 26, 2009 - 16:45 Reply with quote Back to top

Hi!

I have a genuine question:

How comes that every game Trog plays has a difficulty of 0?

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treborius



Joined: Apr 05, 2008

Post   Posted: Jun 26, 2009 - 18:30 Reply with quote Back to top

freak_in_a_frock wrote:
Sorry it must be an Admin tool, i wasn't aware that it wasn't available to the public.


damn, i always knew you guys had more knowledge available then myself... Shocked Confused
bloodbowljunky



Joined: Aug 07, 2007

Post   Posted: Jun 26, 2009 - 18:57 Reply with quote Back to top

@funnyfingers: my mistake, thought it was ts 15 difference before handicaps. but what do you think about a tr/ts difference 15 before handicaps or a total random algorithm??? i think that would be fairer than ts 15 difference after handicaps. so i just had luck in the month before not getting such ts high levler.
funnyfingers



Joined: Nov 13, 2005

Post   Posted: Jun 26, 2009 - 19:36 Reply with quote Back to top

The current formula gives a slightly lower match rating per handicap. I think it is needed to ensure that as many matchups as possible can be made. There also is a random multiplier done to each matchup to give a bit of randomness to the matchups. It is a very small multiplier.

If the BlackBox went the route of matching on pure TS and took out handicaps, then you basically are changing the rules of LRB4.

If you limit it to 15 TS before handicaps then a TEAM A 100 TR/115 TS and TEAM B with 111 TR/100 TS play and TEAM A gets a handicap and is effectively 20 TS higher than TEAM B.
funnyfingers



Joined: Nov 13, 2005

Post   Posted: Jun 26, 2009 - 19:38 Reply with quote Back to top

Quote:

I think it is needed to ensure that as many matchups as possible can be made.

To clarify I mean that handicaps are needed to ensure as many matchups as possible.
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