Baffers
Joined: Sep 26, 2003
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Jan 30, 2004 - 18:11 |
 
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This may already have been adressed some time ago, but I can't find it anywhere, so here goes.
On page 21 of the LRB, it states that each assist gives +1 str to the player assisted. Okay, so far so good. Here's a scenario: a str 6 rat ogre blocks a wood elf lineman (str 3). The rat ogre has 3 assists from other skaven. The wood elf lineman has 2 assists from other wood elves, standing by, minding their own set of nuts. In short: the rat ogre now has str 9 for the block, and the wood elf has str 5. Everyone still with me? Right. Ergo, this should be a 2 die block. Oddly enough, the client rolls 3 dice for this block.
Now my question is: am I wrong in assuming that that should have been a 2 die block, or is there something faulty in the client? It seems as if the client cancels out opposing assists. In the above scenario, the rat ogre would then "only" be str 7 vs the wood elf's 3, which would explain the 3 die block.
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R_Spiskit
Joined: Nov 24, 2003
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Jan 30, 2004 - 18:18 |
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A player only assists if it is not in an opposing players tackle zone or has guard.
The only way i can see that they had 2 assists and you had 3 is for at least some, if not all, of the players having guard, otherwise, assists will be cancelled. As it is unlikely the two wood elf assisters had guard, I would assume they were cancelled.
If this is true it is St5 plays ST3 so I can only assume that at least 2 of your assists were unzoned or guarders. Am I right? |
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Mnemon
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jan 30, 2004 - 18:18 |
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Further down that section
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In order to make an assist, the player
1. Must be adjacent to the enemy player involved in the block, and ...
2. Must not be in the tackle zone of any other player from the opposing team
3. Must be standing
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Now I don't know how exactly the setup was, but I can't really imagine any way where the assists were not cancelling each other out due to the tackle zone rule. Unless some players giving assists have the guard skill of course.
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olivers
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jan 30, 2004 - 18:25 |
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I can't remember but under the new wild animal rules can they use assists? |
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BadMrMojo
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jan 30, 2004 - 18:25 |
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| Code: | ______
_w__s_
__RLs_
_w__s_
?_____
w = wood elf (any)
s = skaven (any)
R = Rat Ogre (blocker)
L = WE Lineman (defender)
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Seems likely that there was someone on one of the WE assists ("?" above, for example) that negated an assist, making it 9 vs 4 str.
Got a link to the replay? |
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Baffers
Joined: Sep 26, 2003
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Jan 30, 2004 - 18:37 |
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Mezir
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jan 30, 2004 - 18:54 |
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Yeah I've noticed that it does that. Never thought it that important though - and I'm not totally clear on how the assists should be counted in the board-game.  |
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Vero
Joined: Dec 30, 2003
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Jan 30, 2004 - 18:58 |
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I have allways added and subtracted str for blocking guy only on table top  |
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Baffers
Joined: Sep 26, 2003
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Jan 30, 2004 - 19:01 |
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Well, if we are following the LRB rules here, you should add str to the player assisted for each assist. Is it important? Not really, although sometimes it is. Just being a nitpicker about it. |
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Lord_Holle
Joined: Sep 02, 2003
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Jan 30, 2004 - 19:14 |
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Wild animals can't give or receive assists. Page 26 LRB |
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Mezir
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jan 30, 2004 - 19:16 |
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*cough* Rules Review *cough*
Wild Animal got a thorough make-over. Get up to speed, mate. |
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Baffers
Joined: Sep 26, 2003
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Jan 30, 2004 - 19:17 |
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That's the old ruling. This is the new one:
Page 25: Replace the Wild Animal entry with: Wild Animals are extremely violent creatures. If you declare any action other than Block with a Wild Animal, roll a D6. On a roll of 1-3, the Wild Animal stands still and roars in rage instead, and the action is wasted. Note that the Wild Animal no longer has to move first and that he can now use assists. |
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Baffers
Joined: Sep 26, 2003
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Jan 30, 2004 - 19:18 |
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Bah, too late. Oh well. But still, even if wa didn't receive assists, that sure as hell wouldn't explain the 3 die block! |
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Christer
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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The client does it wrong. A ST7 player blocking a st3 player with one assist each gets three dice in the client, but the LRB rules say that the st7 player would need st9 (ie, an additional assist in this case). |
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Mezir
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jan 30, 2004 - 19:48 |
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Okay so that's something that should either go in "Differences from LRB" or be labeled as a bug. |
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