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Would you be fine with their being an exception in the maximum allowed team difference for halflings?
Yes
59%
 59%  [ 73 ]
No
40%
 40%  [ 49 ]
Total Votes : 122


Urrghs



Joined: Dec 23, 2007
Post   Posted: Feb 17, 2011 - 13:56 Reply with quote Back to top
zakatan wrote:
Urrghs wrote:
In my opinion, once all inducements are implemented (what is missing? only the wizard, right?) there is no need for a restriction concerning the TV difference.





mercenaries and cards are missing too
Ahh, OK. So, mercenaries are really substantially of importance; the cards I think could be neglected (are they not special rules anyway?).
zakatan



Joined: May 17, 2008
Post   Posted: Feb 17, 2011 - 14:01 Reply with quote Back to top
Urrghs wrote:
zakatan wrote:
Urrghs wrote:
In my opinion, once all inducements are implemented (what is missing? only the wizard, right?) there is no need for a restriction concerning the TV difference.



mercenaries and cards are missing too
Ahh, OK. So, mercenaries are really substantially of importance; the cards I think could be neglected (are they not special rules anyway?).


cards are part of the CRP rulebook, and i believe Kalimar plans to implement (most of) them at one point.
Urrghs



Joined: Dec 23, 2007
Post   Posted: Feb 17, 2011 - 14:05 Reply with quote Back to top
This is cool; no argument here.
Still, I think that the game and the concept of inducements can sustain with only the cards missing (at least for some time, since implementation of those will not be trivial and there are still more important open issues).
Astarael



Joined: Aug 14, 2005
Post   Posted: Feb 17, 2011 - 14:20 Reply with quote Back to top
zakatan wrote:
Urrghs wrote:
zakatan wrote:
Urrghs wrote:
In my opinion, once all inducements are implemented (what is missing? only the wizard, right?) there is no need for a restriction concerning the TV difference.



mercenaries and cards are missing too
Ahh, OK. So, mercenaries are really substantially of importance; the cards I think could be neglected (are they not special rules anyway?).


cards are part of the CRP rulebook, and i believe Kalimar plans to implement (most of) them at one point.


The Special Play cards are optional rules for clarification.

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JockMcRowdy



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Post   Posted: Feb 17, 2011 - 14:31 Reply with quote Back to top
the special play cards are stupid, proper stupid, they MUST NOT COME TO PASS!!

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Grod



Joined: Sep 30, 2003
Post   Posted: Feb 17, 2011 - 14:37 Reply with quote Back to top
JockMcRowdy wrote:
the special play cards are stupid, proper stupid, they MUST NOT COME TO PASS!!


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blocknroll



Joined: Aug 04, 2009
Post   Posted: Feb 17, 2011 - 14:42 Reply with quote Back to top
zakatan, it was my underworld team, im sure I've never been above 14 players with it, your point is a good one though and knowing me if there's something it's possible to get wrong/forget im your man Smile
will keep an eye on it in future though.

edit: it was this game http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=match&op=view&id=3124696
Macavity



Joined: Nov 23, 2004
Post   Posted: Feb 17, 2011 - 15:04 Reply with quote Back to top
koadah wrote:


Are no tree fling teams banned from [R]anked?


Nope! Played and won (because my opponent fell asleep, but still.....)

On topic. Yes, we need to loosen the restriction. Percentage doesn't necessarily bother me, but make it bigger, or if we are newb protecting have the client warn, "This game has a TV difference of **, are you certain you wish to play?"

edit:: no special change for halflings, just a larger difference possible in general

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shadow46x2



Joined: Nov 22, 2003
Post   Posted: Feb 17, 2011 - 15:27 Reply with quote Back to top
since when did fumbbl turn into burger king?...

you guys think this is "have it your way, right away" or something?

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Wang



Joined: Aug 10, 2010
Post   Posted: Feb 17, 2011 - 15:36 Reply with quote Back to top
I don't see why there is any cap to the TV difference in Ranked, but I'm new. However, said max will stop me playing as Flings (and probably Goblins, too).
JanMattys



Joined: Feb 29, 2004
Post   Posted: Feb 17, 2011 - 15:38 Reply with quote Back to top
shadow46x2 wrote:
since when did fumbbl turn into burger king?...

you guys think this is "have it your way, right away" or something?

--j


I'l have a slice of that moderator ham, there. Well roasted, please.

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zakatan



Joined: May 17, 2008
Post   Posted: Feb 17, 2011 - 15:43 Reply with quote Back to top
Wang wrote:
I don't see why there is any cap to the TV difference in Ranked, but I'm new. However, said max will stop me playing as Flings (and probably Goblins, too).


It is a remnant from the previous version of Ranked, where silly differences of team strenghts were not compensated at all by the handicap system, thus preventing very uncompetitive games to happen.

In the new Ranked, the allowed difference in strength is way smaller although the inducement system is much better at making games competitive than the handicap system. I doesn't make much sense, does it?
koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005
Post   Posted: Feb 17, 2011 - 15:44 Reply with quote Back to top
JanMattys wrote:
shadow46x2 wrote:
since when did fumbbl turn into burger king?...

you guys think this is "have it your way, right away" or something?

--j


I'l have a slice of that moderator ham, there. Well roasted, please.


You want fries with that? Wink

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shadow46x2



Joined: Nov 22, 2003
Post   Posted: Feb 17, 2011 - 15:45 Reply with quote Back to top
no..what doesn't make much sense, is why people are harping on this, when halflings have been doing just fine in blackbox with this rule already in place...

but hey, i guess you people need something to complain about, right?

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Macavity



Joined: Nov 23, 2004
Post   Posted: Feb 17, 2011 - 15:46 Reply with quote Back to top
It doesn't to me, but remember that there were good reasons for the original cap (and the invention of TS, for that matter). Everyone be very pleasant, or we'll scare the Jan away! Smile

@Shadow. Not right away, but yes, I generally assume that my way is the best. Here is hoping Christer agrees!

@shadow's post he made while I was posting. Most of us are off the halfling exception at this point, I think.

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