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Sp00keh



Joined: Dec 06, 2011

Post   Posted: Dec 23, 2011 - 15:27 Reply with quote Back to top

no, they were from the ones of 18th sept

i'll re-do it all later, perhaps.


my analysis so far (and this stuff right now) is all with the old data

here's teams in the 960-1210 bracket, ranked by how often they draw. win rate also shown

------------- Draw % --- Win %
Nurgle --------- 35 --- 34.9
Dwarf ---------- 30 --- 43.1
High Elf ------- 30 --- 37.4
Human -------- 30 --- 41.5
Necromantic --- 29 --- 39.2
Undead --------- 29 --- 45.9
Halfling --------- 27 --- 20.9
Skaven ---------- 26 --- 46.6
Chaos Dwarf --- 24 --- 43.6
Lizardman ------ 22 --- 46.8
Orc --------------- 21 --- 41.6
Chaos Pact ----- 19 --- 37.4
Slann ------------ 19 --- 34.2
Wood Elf ------- 19 --- 43.5
Dark Elf --------- 18 --- 40.6
Norse ----------- 18 --- 43.8
Underworld --- 18 --- 30.5
Chaos ---------- 17 --- 38.2
Khemri -------- 16 --- 38.3
Vampire ------ 15 --- 25.9
Elf ------------- 12 --- 40.3
Amazon -------- 8 --- 49.7
Goblin ----------- 7 --- 20.3
Ogre ------------ 6 --- 17.1


if i allocate 1 point per draw % and 2 points per win %, then this is the rankings for the lowest bracket:

Undead -------- 120.7
Skaven -------- 119.2
Dwarf ---------- 116.2
Lizardman ------ 115.6
Human ---------- 113.0
Chaos Dwarf --- 111.1
Necromantic --- 107.4
Amazon --------- 107.3
Wood Elf ------ 106.0
Norse ---------- 105.5
High Elf -------- 104.8
Nurgle -------- 104.7
Orc ----------- 104.2
Dark Elf ------- 99.1
Chaos Pact ---- 93.8
Chaos ---------- 93.4
Elf -------------- 92.6
Khemri -------- 92.5
Slann ---------- 87.4
Underworld ---- 78.9
Halfling --------- 68.7
Vampire -------- 66.7
Goblin ---------- 47.5
Ogre ------------ 40.2
Sp00keh



Joined: Dec 06, 2011

Post   Posted: Dec 23, 2011 - 15:46 Reply with quote Back to top

hito's new stuff has only been re-formatted, there's no new scrape of data

for example (in the 960-1210 bracket) it used to show amazon v amazon 46%, 26 games
now it just shows amazon v amazon 50% 26 games

one thing that leaps out when i do a comparison of hito's new type (draws count as 0.5) it makes the fast agile teams immediately seem worse

960-1210 bracket, Wins % only:

1 Amazon -------- 49.69
2 Lizardman ----- 46.81
3 Skaven -------- 46.61
4 Undead -------- 45.89
5 Norse --------- 43.77
6 Chaos Dwarf -- 43.57
7 Wood Elf -------- 43.51
8 Dwarf ------------ 43.12
9 Orc --------------- 41.61
10 Human ------------- 41.55
11 Dark Elf ------------ 40.55
12 Elf ------------------ 40.32
13 Necromantic ------ 39.23
14 Khemri -------------- 38.26
15 Chaos ---------------38.22
16 Chaos Pact ------- 37.41
17 High Elf ---------- 37.40
18 Nurgle ------------ 34.89
19 Slann ------------- 34.24
20 Underworld --- 30.48
21 Vampire -------- 25.88
22 Halfling --------- 20.88
23 Goblin ------------ 20.28
24 Ogre -------------- 17.11

960-1210 bracket, Win% + (Draw% / 2) --- change compared to previous list:

1 Amazon ---------- 60.23 --- no change
2 Undead ---------- 56.81 --- up 2
3 Lizardman ------- 56.03 --- down 1
4 Skaven ---------- 55.80 --- down 1
5 Chaos Dwarf --- 53.99 --- up 1
6 Norse ------------ 53.52 --- down 1
7 Dwarf ------------ 53.29 --- up 1
8 Wood Elf -------- 51.84 --- down 1
9 Orc --------------- 51.10 --- no change
10 Human --------- 51.08 --- no change
11 Necromantic --- 49.65 --- up 2
12 Dark Elf --------- 49.26 --- down 1
13 Khemri ---------- 49.11 --- up 1
14 Chaos ----------- 48.32 --- up 1
15 Elf ----------------- 47.63 --- down 3
16Chaos Pact ------ 47.60 --- no change
17 High Elf ---------- 46.97 --- no change
18 Nurgle ----------- 46.24 --- no change
19 Slann ------------ 44.72 --- no change
20 Underworld ----- 39.55 --- no change
21 Vampire --------- 35.08 --- no change
22 Halfling ---------- 28.65 --- no change
23 Goblin ----------- 28.35 --- no change
24 Ogre ------------- 26.42 --- no change


Last edited by Sp00keh on Dec 23, 2011 - 16:22; edited 3 times in total
koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Post   Posted: Dec 23, 2011 - 15:46 Reply with quote Back to top

I have Amazons as the best team 960-1210.

Of maybe you are just missing KFoged's games. Wink
Code:

              P     %
Amazon      1537  60.57
Undead      1550  56.84
Lizardmen   1685  56.62
Skaven      2005  56.11
Dwarf       2361  54.64
 

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Sp00keh



Joined: Dec 06, 2011

Post   Posted: Dec 23, 2011 - 15:53 Reply with quote Back to top

humm dislike this discrepancy
i have these results, from hito's latest data with 0.5 for draws in the 960-1210 bracket

Code:

team        %      played
Amazon      60.23   1215
Undead      56.81   1387
Lizardman   56.03   1415
Skaven      55.80   1758
Chaos Dwarf 53.99   2443
Norse       53.52   2318
Dwarf       53.29   2121
koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Post   Posted: Dec 23, 2011 - 16:02 Reply with quote Back to top

I'm not using Hito's data. Also I have mirror matches stripped out.

I also have a different number of games so it doesn't look too bad to me.

Edit: Box data only.

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Sp00keh



Joined: Dec 06, 2011

Post   Posted: Dec 23, 2011 - 16:06 Reply with quote Back to top

i've kept mirrors, they're obviously all 50% but they still have an effect
where's your data from? did u do a fresh scrape?
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