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Ignoring Fluff reasons - Do you think CDs should have been give mutation access?
Yes
37%
 37%  [ 60 ]
No
36%
 36%  [ 59 ]
Pie!
11%
 11%  [ 18 ]
I'm just happy clicking something
15%
 15%  [ 25 ]
Total Votes : 162


Raughri



Joined: Oct 11, 2011

Post   Posted: Jan 03, 2012 - 20:53 Reply with quote Back to top

maysrill wrote:
There was an orc winner. (they're down, but not out!)

I don't particularly mind the Claws on CDs. PO is the broken skill in the ruleset, IMO, not Claw.


Agreed Maysrill, PO is broken not Claw.
pythrr



Joined: Mar 07, 2006

Post   Posted: Jan 03, 2012 - 20:56 Reply with quote Back to top

yes, we all know that

Garion is just trolling with this thread...

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Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: Jan 03, 2012 - 21:08 Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah we all know PO is as broken as a .... very broken thing. But in this rule set everyone can have PO with St access. Only a few races get the magic ingredient which is Claw, yeah on its own it blows, with MB its very good and with MB PO its just daft. But why give Cds access to this skill when they can compete with every race in the game without it and win with the probable exception of Nurgle and Chaos (and even then we are just making an educated guess), why give CDs Claw but not dwarves, or Orcs, or Lizardmen ( i dont think these races should get it btw). How come they are the only av9 team to get it and not only that they start with Block + Tackle?

It just seems wierd to me is all :s
pythrr



Joined: Mar 07, 2006

Post   Posted: Jan 03, 2012 - 21:17 Reply with quote Back to top

cos of fluff. they are CHAOS... no?

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anisdrin



Joined: Apr 10, 2009

Post   Posted: Jan 03, 2012 - 21:22 Reply with quote Back to top

SeƱores won a major but they had only one claw in the team, so I don't think it was a factor. In fact the key were his 2 outstanding hobgoblins and the casualties respecting them.

I think CD are as powerful as in Lrb4, what happened is that orcs and dwarfs are far worse.
dode74



Joined: Aug 14, 2009

Post   Posted: Jan 03, 2012 - 21:53 Reply with quote Back to top

From the data gathered by Plasmoid we can say to a 95% confidence interval that the mean win% for CDs in leagues is between 49.6% and 58.3% (53.98 over 490 games) based on LRB6 data alone. Factor in the LRB5 stuff and the range becomes 49.15% to 54.29% (51.72 over 1452 games), which is entirely inside the required 45-55% range.

From FUMBBL CRP data (up to Oct 11) we can say that CDs have a win% between 53.85% and 55.59% (again to 95CI for 54.72% over 12534 games) - third overall after Amazons and WE, and just ahead of Skaven at 54.70%.

So I think the question really becomes, do they need a nerf? The answer appears to be "no".
koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Post   Posted: Jan 03, 2012 - 22:24 Reply with quote Back to top

Garion once had a CD team that was just plain aweome so CDs must be overpowered.

Though they were eaten by 1560 chaos so chaos must be overpowered too. Wink

@Garion so few of your teams make it to 20 games that I am not at all sure why you are bothered by any of this. Wink
Down there you should fear the power of the zons. Twisted Evil

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Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: Jan 03, 2012 - 22:34 Reply with quote Back to top

I retire teams that enter the CPOMB zone for a reason. The game is stupidly boring once you enter it.
blader4411



Joined: Oct 18, 2009

Post   Posted: Jan 03, 2012 - 23:07 Reply with quote Back to top

I'm pretty sure not all your 20-odd teams were ClawPOMB fearing.

Are you sure it's not just you who retires teams en-masse?
koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Post   Posted: Jan 03, 2012 - 23:20 Reply with quote Back to top

Garion wrote:
I retire teams that enter the CPOMB zone for a reason. The game is stupidly boring once you enter it.


CPOMB zone is 1700+ and chaos do not become dominant until 1900+. Most of your teams get nowhere near that.

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JimmyFantastic



Joined: Feb 06, 2007

Post   Posted: Jan 03, 2012 - 23:44 Reply with quote Back to top

They got a nerf by turning the Troll into a Mino don't forget.

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pythrr



Joined: Mar 07, 2006

Post   Posted: Jan 03, 2012 - 23:47 Reply with quote Back to top

yes, angry cow sucks

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Arktoris



Joined: Feb 16, 2004

Post   Posted: Jan 04, 2012 - 00:33 Reply with quote Back to top

yes, we don't want our big guys to have 6ST blitzes, extra movement, extra agility, access to mutations, frenzy, thick skull, and never lose their tackle zones.

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Qaz



Joined: Apr 28, 2004

Post   Posted: Jan 04, 2012 - 00:37 Reply with quote Back to top

Six Hooves Won the UI while it was LRB6 but they did not have any claw pomb players in during so.

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Bobs



Joined: Feb 26, 2009

Post   Posted: Jan 04, 2012 - 01:04 Reply with quote Back to top

Then you should hand back the trophy for not doing it right Razz

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