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harvestmouse



Joined: May 13, 2007

Post   Posted: Dec 02, 2015 - 06:57 Reply with quote Back to top

Not playing CPOMB isn't picking. If you like Chaos and want to play ranked, simply don't take it, then you shouldn't have the problem.

This is the GOOD part about Rank's fickleness. Players that know what they're doing (should do a bit at high TV) won't play vs BS.


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Balle2000



Joined: Sep 25, 2008

Post   Posted: Dec 02, 2015 - 07:05 Reply with quote Back to top

Hey guys,

I meant this as a "see how well the box is doing",

not "what's the differences between Ranked and Box".

My bad, I guess.

Might we discuss the positives about blackbox instead? Smile
mrt1212



Joined: Feb 26, 2013

Post   Posted: Dec 02, 2015 - 07:07 Reply with quote Back to top

Well it's certainly not getting games for the past 2 hours. Yeesh. 3 coaches 3 coaches 3 coaches, 4 coaches no matches...
Balle2000



Joined: Sep 25, 2008

Post   Posted: Dec 02, 2015 - 07:09 Reply with quote Back to top

I guess not Rolling Eyes

mrt1212 wrote:
Well it's certainly not getting games for the past 2 hours. Yeesh. 3 coaches 3 coaches 3 coaches, 4 coaches no matches...

How can we get more coaches from the Americas?
mrt1212



Joined: Feb 26, 2013

Post   Posted: Dec 02, 2015 - 07:12 Reply with quote Back to top

Pay kids in penny candy to play.
Kam



Joined: Nov 06, 2012

Post   Posted: Dec 02, 2015 - 13:07 Reply with quote Back to top

tussock wrote:
The three joke teams; Ogre, Fling, and Goblin. If anyone wants to mess with the scheduler, they need inducements. A "fair" match for Halflings and Goblins isn't against equal TV, it's against +100 to +150 TV. Missing out on the bribes and the chef (and the useful cheap stars) that turn up so often in League and Tournament play is a big loss.


I don't know... Sometimes it's more complicated than that. I'd rather give 100 or 150 k inducements with my Flings when my opponent is in the TV range (which varies with each roster) where that 200-300 TV (from -100 to +100) means 200 or 300 TV of Tackle, MB and PO.

If you have 1250 TV Flings, would you rather play against 1110 TV Orcs or against 1400 TV Orcs?

EDIT - However, it's quite true at very low TV. I might add that any TV < 1000 should be considered as equal to 1000, both in Ranked and Box.

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Panda_



Joined: Jul 14, 2004

Post   Posted: Dec 02, 2015 - 13:11 Reply with quote Back to top

I don't get why ppl want to 'address bash' in the box. My Blackbox skavens have about 600 games under their belt, and they were fine at all times in CRP. It was a bit harder with LRB5 but still perfectly doable.

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bghandras



Joined: Feb 06, 2011

Post   Posted: Dec 02, 2015 - 13:13 Reply with quote Back to top

Kam wrote:
EDIT - However, it's quite true at very low TV. I might add that any TV < 1000 should be considered as equal to 1000, both in Ranked and Box.

This sounds to be a great idea.
koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Post   Posted: Dec 02, 2015 - 13:27 Reply with quote Back to top

Panda_ wrote:
I don't get why ppl want to 'address bash' in the box. My Blackbox skavens have about 600 games under their belt, and they were fine at all times in CRP. It was a bit harder with LRB5 but still perfectly doable.


That is because they are skaven. Everyone is bash to rats.

When was the last time your team was over 1600? Wink

You didn't qualify for the last Sprint.

Let's see what you've got in the new one Wink

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Done25



Joined: Nov 24, 2015

Post   Posted: Dec 02, 2015 - 13:51 Reply with quote Back to top

bghandras wrote:
Kam wrote:
EDIT - However, it's quite true at very low TV. I might add that any TV < 1000 should be considered as equal to 1000, both in Ranked and Box.

This sounds to be a great idea.


I agree. And, as a bonus, it fixes the problem of how it can be hard for low TV teams to find a match, especially if something goes horribly wrong and you end up with only 700-800 TV.
Balle2000



Joined: Sep 25, 2008

Post   Posted: Dec 02, 2015 - 18:47 Reply with quote Back to top

Panda_ wrote:
I don't get why ppl want to 'address bash' in the box.

A lot of good things has come from addressing various issues - predominantly bash - in the box. I see Christer starting this thread as 110% positive, and much good (and admittedly the very questionable) has come from this.

Box is a lot better than it was a only year ago, and this is partially because we as a community keep trying to improve it imo.

For example my humans have now played 60 games in a row at over 2000k TW.


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Balle2000



Joined: Sep 25, 2008

Post   Posted: Dec 02, 2015 - 18:48 Reply with quote Back to top

bghandras wrote:
Kam wrote:
EDIT - However, it's quite true at very low TV. I might add that any TV < 1000 should be considered as equal to 1000, both in Ranked and Box.

This sounds to be a great idea.

+1

Is it open to minmax exploits however?
Done25



Joined: Nov 24, 2015

Post   Posted: Dec 02, 2015 - 19:01 Reply with quote Back to top

Balle2000 wrote:
bghandras wrote:
Kam wrote:
EDIT - However, it's quite true at very low TV. I might add that any TV < 1000 should be considered as equal to 1000, both in Ranked and Box.

This sounds to be a great idea.

+1

Is it open to minmax exploits however?


Exploited how?
Balle2000



Joined: Sep 25, 2008

Post   Posted: Dec 02, 2015 - 19:02 Reply with quote Back to top

Done25 wrote:
Exploited how?

That was basically my question as well.

But building 850k Chorfs and poaching rookies with a wizard for example.
Done25



Joined: Nov 24, 2015

Post   Posted: Dec 02, 2015 - 19:16 Reply with quote Back to top

Balle2000 wrote:
Done25 wrote:
Exploited how?

That was basically my question as well.

But building 850k Chorfs and poaching rookies with a wizard for example.
Nothing says they couldn't get matched up with someone at 980 TV. And if you have a 150+ tv advantage they're probbaly going to need that wizard.

A more realistic worry is an 850 tv goblin team aiming for 3 bribes, but that's more of a goblin balance problem.
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