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MattiasF



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Apr 27, 2004 - 08:59 Reply with quote Back to top

Last one. Most skilles on lineup. Excluding negatraits. Stunty not counted as a negatrait. TTM could possilbe excluded from some teams, as it utterly useless for example the WE...
35 Dwarf
34 Halfling
33 Goblin
29 Chaos Dwarf
27 Norse
23 Lizardmen
21 Orc
20 Human, Wood Elf
19 Amazon, Undead
16 Chaos
13 Skaven
12 Dark Elf
8 High Elf
UberEvil



Joined: Oct 20, 2003

Post   Posted: Apr 27, 2004 - 09:25 Reply with quote Back to top

Chance for my bastard Bull Centaur falling over and dying on his first GFI.

(failing GFI)*(failing re-roll with sure feet)*(breaking armour)*(Causing SI)*(Causing death)*(failing apothecary) = (1/6)^6 = 1/46656

I should take up Yatzy instead
m0nty



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Apr 27, 2004 - 13:32 Reply with quote Back to top

UberEvil wrote:
Chance for my bastard Bull Centaur falling over and dying on his first GFI.

(failing GFI)*(failing re-roll with sure feet)*(breaking armour)*(Causing SI)*(Causing death)*(failing apothecary) = (1/6)^6 = 1/46656

I should take up Yatzy instead


Luxury! Let me tell you about the time I rolled 127 ones in a row, got 25 injuries against me and failed apoth ten times straight... in one game!
chunky04



Joined: Aug 11, 2003

Post   Posted: Apr 28, 2004 - 01:28 Reply with quote Back to top

Why do you guys seem to keep forgetting the Rotters in all these listing of teams by X? I reckon it's a conspiracy against us!

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DropDeadFred



Joined: Mar 05, 2004

Post   Posted: Apr 28, 2004 - 01:31 Reply with quote Back to top

I agree With Chunky04!!!

Big Rotter Fan

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Tinkywinky



Joined: Aug 25, 2003

Post   Posted: Apr 28, 2004 - 03:46 Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks for the statistics random oracle!

I'm adding the really evil combos too. Smile


Claw + MB

AV 7 AV 8 AV 9

Stun 30,1% 24,3% 17,4%
KO 22,1% 17,8% 12,7%
Cas 20,1% 16,2% 11,6%
KO+Cas 42,2% 34,0% 24,3%


Claw + RSC

AV 7 AV 8 AV 9

Stun 20,1% 16,2% 11,6%
KO 22,1% 17,8% 12,7%
Cas 30,1% 24,3% 17,4%
KO+Cas 52,2% 42,1% 30,1%

Piling on + Claw + RSC

AV 7 AV 8 AV 9

Stun 25,6% 23,2% 18,3%
KO 28,2% 25,5% 20,2%
Cas 38,5% 34,8% 27,5%
KO+Cas 66,7% 60,3% 47,7%


Average number of fouls per match commited against the Piling on/Claw/RSC player: 4
Xeterog



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Apr 28, 2004 - 04:01 Reply with quote Back to top

I think Dwarven should be 97...maybe even 95. Sure, you could go with 2 blitzers and 9 longbeards for 99...but I think most teams would at least have 1 runner and one slayer (or 2 of either one..or 2 of both)

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chunky04



Joined: Aug 11, 2003

Post   Posted: Apr 28, 2004 - 04:05 Reply with quote Back to top

[quote="MattiasF"]Not exactly odds, but I felt it fits the bill...
Maximum Strength on field for a fresh team (Not counting handicaps either).
39 Chaos, Ork
37 Chaos Dwarf, Lizardmen, Undead
36 Wood Elf
35 Human, Norse, Skaven
33 Amazon, Dark Elf, Dwarf, High Elf,
30 Halfling
28 Goblin
[\quote]

Rotters would be 39.
chunky04



Joined: Aug 11, 2003

Post   Posted: Apr 28, 2004 - 04:06 Reply with quote Back to top

MattiasF wrote:
To follow up on my streak of unnecessary information, here comes the most expensive lineups.
1150k Dark Elf
1030k Wood Elf
930k High Elf
900k Human
880k Chaos
870k Chaos Dwarf, Skaven
860k Norse
850k Dwarf, Lizardmen
820k Orc
790k Amazon
750k Undead
560k Goblin
490k Halfling


Rotters would be 920K for 11 players
chunky04



Joined: Aug 11, 2003

Post   Posted: Apr 28, 2004 - 04:09 Reply with quote Back to top

MattiasF wrote:
Cant resist to complete what I've started. Here is the most agile lineup. (Whatever that can tell anyone?)
44 Dark Elf, High Elf, Wood Elf
37 Skaven
33 Amazon, Chaos, Chaos Dwarf, Goblin, Halfling, Human, Lizardmen, Norse, Orc
28 Undead
26 Dwarf

[Edited some stupid spelling errors. I do that alot.]


Rotters would be 33, but would generally field 27.
chunky04



Joined: Aug 11, 2003

Post   Posted: Apr 28, 2004 - 04:10 Reply with quote Back to top

MattiasF wrote:
And the most heavily armoured lineups.
99 Dwarf, Orc
95 Chaos Dwarf
93 Chaos
91 Lizardmen
90 Undead
89 Human
88 Dark Elf, High Elf
81 Goblin
80 Skaven, Wood Elf
79 Norse
77 Amazon
74 Halfling


Rotters would be 93.
chunky04



Joined: Aug 11, 2003

Post   Posted: Apr 28, 2004 - 04:12 Reply with quote Back to top

MattiasF wrote:
Last one. Most skilles on lineup. Excluding negatraits. Stunty not counted as a negatrait. TTM could possilbe excluded from some teams, as it utterly useless for example the WE...
35 Dwarf
34 Halfling
33 Goblin
29 Chaos Dwarf
27 Norse
23 Lizardmen
21 Orc
20 Human, Wood Elf
19 Amazon, Undead
16 Chaos
13 Skaven
12 Dark Elf
8 High Elf


19 for the Rotters.
DoubleSkulls



Joined: Oct 05, 2003

Post   Posted: Apr 28, 2004 - 13:09 Reply with quote Back to top

Buttercup wrote:
About the Dirty Player table - does this table assume you're using the +2 bonus on armour piercing or +2 to the injury roll? Seems to me that from looking at it you're assuming the +2 is going to armour (also note that your odds of piercing are >100% for armour 2 and 3 but not for armour 1...). Since most DP fear is caused by the gangbang, it would be great if you could add a DP table that calculates the casualties based on the +2 to injury (even if just on the auto-piercings of av 1 and 2...)


http://www.irwilliams.com/ecbbl/injury.php

I've fixed the DP table as I'd made a mistake in the calculations.

It does not presume that you use DP on armour or injury - it will get used on Av if necessary, otherwise on armour. That's why the figures are better than RSF. It does the same for MB too.

BTW My tables do show all the combinations (apart from Stunty) I can think of. e.g. If you want to know the effectiveness of Claw & Piling On just knock 2 off the Av value... so look at Av6 rather than Av8.

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