Endzone
Joined: Apr 01, 2008
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Jul 02, 2014 - 21:02 |
 
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Yes it could be done, but it would need more than a clawpomb nerf. The chaos teams tends to be weaker at low TV so the would need a boost there too. |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Jul 02, 2014 - 21:20 |
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Ya see this is where it gets tricky. The rosters aren't designed to be equal at all tvs. Chaos are meant to be weak starts but excellent at high tv. However the overall win percentage bracket for them and every other tier 1 race is 50 - 60% iirc. The problem is at high tv as it is now (with teams hitting a tv of well over 2000) teams like human or Norse stand below 40% chance of winning against say chaos imo while at low tv Norse vs chaos I would say Norse and chaos probably hit that 60 - 40 closely enough. |
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zakatan
Joined: May 17, 2008
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Jul 02, 2014 - 21:42 |
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Bringing back the cummulative cost of skills would discourage the legend+fodder build and make it almost impossible to keep the low-TV sharks going as they do.
It would encourage balanced team development, help players embrace double+stats rolls and thus encourage different player builds. On the other hand, clawpombers wouldn't be such cost-effective players, so spamming them would be a less viable strategy. |
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zakatan
Joined: May 17, 2008
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Jul 02, 2014 - 21:42 |
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Zlefin
Joined: Apr 14, 2005
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Jul 04, 2014 - 13:26 |
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How much would it help to use a different TV system for resurrection play vs continuous play?
Also - how many offline leagues use continuous play? My impression is that resurrection is more common offline, but I don't have good info. |
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bigGuy
Joined: Sep 21, 2009
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Jul 04, 2014 - 13:58 |
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| MattDakka wrote: |
Another small change I'd like is reducing the SPPs for causing a CAS from 2 SPPs to 1 SPP.
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SMALL CHANGE? Try to make legendary Black Orc or Tomb Guardian with 1 spp per CAS... |
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zakatan
Joined: May 17, 2008
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Jul 04, 2014 - 16:19 |
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| bigGuy wrote: | | MattDakka wrote: |
Another small change I'd like is reducing the SPPs for causing a CAS from 2 SPPs to 1 SPP.
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SMALL CHANGE? Try to make legendary Black Orc or Tomb Guardian with 1 spp per CAS... |
Try to get a skill... |
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JimmyFantastic
Joined: Feb 06, 2007
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Jul 04, 2014 - 16:46 |
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1spp for a fouling cas would be nice. |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Jul 04, 2014 - 16:54 |
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| zakatan wrote: | | bigGuy wrote: | | MattDakka wrote: |
Another small change I'd like is reducing the SPPs for causing a CAS from 2 SPPs to 1 SPP.
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SMALL CHANGE? Try to make legendary Black Orc or Tomb Guardian with 1 spp per CAS... |
Try to get a skill... |
This is not the game of "fantasy team building" or "pimp your players".
The purpose of the game is not creating Legends, it's winning matches.
I wouldn't think of the Black Orcs'/Tomb Guardians' difficult to get skills, instead I would think of the reduced amount of Clawpomber Legends, less Clawpomb killers = more easier to skill up Black Orc and Guardians because they would survive longer, even with just 1 SPP per CAS.
I play both Orcs and Khemri in the Box and having some unskilled BoB or Guardian is not the end of the world.
You coach a team, not single players on isolation, never forget it. |
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ChenZhen
Joined: Dec 13, 2011
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Jul 04, 2014 - 17:13 |
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I think the bank rules help reign this in. With excess cash adding to team value, the bash teams have to spend, or go into spiraling expenses. The fragile teams are spending cash to replace players, so they don't have to worry about bank limits. |
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JimmyFantastic
Joined: Feb 06, 2007
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Jul 04, 2014 - 18:19 |
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There wouldn't be many less killers Matt, most of their early spps come from TDs. It would really suck for Tgs Mummies Big Guys etc. |
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koadah
Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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Jul 04, 2014 - 18:41 |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Jul 04, 2014 - 18:43 |
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| JimmyFantastic wrote: | | There wouldn't be many less killers Matt, most of their early spps come from TDs. It would really suck for Tgs Mummies Big Guys etc. |
Many of their later SPPs come from Clawpomb, though, not TDs.
In the current state playing at high TV with Mummies Big Guys Tgs etc. sucks already. |
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the_Sage
Joined: Jan 13, 2011
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Jul 04, 2014 - 19:23 |
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| bigGuy wrote: | | MattDakka wrote: |
Another small change I'd like is reducing the SPPs for causing a CAS from 2 SPPs to 1 SPP.
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SMALL CHANGE? Try to make legendary Black Orc or Tomb Guardian with 1 spp per CAS... |
We had a bug where piling on did not give SPPs. That was quite nice. |
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bghandras
Joined: Feb 06, 2011
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Jul 04, 2014 - 19:32 |
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I think it is better for the meta when it does, as those killers will be less bargain for the buck. |
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