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arry



Joined: Feb 26, 2014
Post   Posted: Sep 27, 2014 - 11:23 Reply with quote Back to top
Was surprised in a yesterday's game that when my b&c player hit my troll, my turn ended. Didn't find anything in the rules to that effect. Can someone clarify why that happens? A client bug or works as designed?
Grod



Joined: Sep 30, 2003
Post   Posted: Sep 27, 2014 - 11:36 Reply with quote Back to top
only if he knocks him over. and you do get to choose the block dice...

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Dalfort



Joined: Jun 23, 2008
Post   Posted: Sep 27, 2014 - 11:36 Reply with quote Back to top
Its right. If your player fails a roll (being knocked down is a failed roll) it's turnover.

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Overhamsteren



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Post   Posted: Sep 27, 2014 - 11:41 Reply with quote Back to top
Hitting your own goblins is fun, it's pretty easy to get a push when you roll 3 dice and they have dodge. Surprised

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Garion



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Post   Posted: Sep 27, 2014 - 11:50 Reply with quote Back to top
Grod wrote:
only if he knocks him over. and you do get to choose the block dice...


yup the grod is spot on. Also the assists are always worked out in your favour so you should be looking at 2 or 3 dice you choose most of the time.

I cant remember 100% at the moment and I'm at work, but I believe you can push your own players in to the crowd without causing a turn over.

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Garion



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Post   Posted: Sep 27, 2014 - 11:51 Reply with quote Back to top
Overhamsteren wrote:
Hitting your own goblins is fun, it's pretty easy to get a push when you roll 3 dice and they have dodge. Surprised


yar its a good way of getting your pogo to OTT Wink

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sann0638



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Post   Posted: Sep 27, 2014 - 12:17 Reply with quote Back to top
Garion wrote:

I cant remember 100% at the moment and I'm at work, but I believe you can push your own players in to the crowd without causing a turn over.


True. Never happened to me, but sounds fun!

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Overhamsteren



Joined: May 27, 2006
Post   Posted: Sep 27, 2014 - 12:42 Reply with quote Back to top
Garion wrote:
Overhamsteren wrote:
Hitting your own goblins is fun, it's pretty easy to get a push when you roll 3 dice and they have dodge. Surprised


yar its a good way of getting your pogo to OTT Wink


And get free dodges/moves for goblins in general, especially with either sidestep or grab. Smile

Grab cancels sidestep though Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

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Garion



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Post   Posted: Sep 27, 2014 - 12:54 Reply with quote Back to top
yeah goblins arent meant to have skills anyway Wink

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Overhamsteren



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Post   Posted: Sep 27, 2014 - 12:58 Reply with quote Back to top
True Razz

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babass



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Post   Posted: Sep 29, 2014 - 08:55 Reply with quote Back to top
Grod wrote:
only if he knocks him over. and you do get to choose the block dice...

or, if you hit one of your player carrying the ball.... and you knock him over...
the_Sage



Joined: Jan 13, 2011
Post   Posted: Sep 29, 2014 - 09:14 Reply with quote Back to top
What I found more surprising was that
-you can turnover by pushing prone teammates
-you can turnover by pushing onto the ball (it's not a failed pickup because you have no hands, should be the same as pushing a teammate onto the ball imo)

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Garion



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Post   Posted: Sep 29, 2014 - 09:24 Reply with quote Back to top
I think it's only if you injure a prone team mate, and yes I hate that failed pick ups from a fanatic cause turn overs but they are the rules.

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DukeTyrion



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Post   Posted: Sep 29, 2014 - 10:11 Reply with quote Back to top
Garion wrote:
I think it's only if you injure a prone team mate, and yes I hate that failed pick ups from a fanatic cause turn overs but they are the rules.


I think it's just pushing a prone player, as you are rolling armour dice, it's sort of the same as a successful block.

As for the failed ball pickup, I think the rule is there to stop people using the B&C to shift the ball around on purpose (which I do not agree with, because moving the ball on a 1 in 3 chance was always unlikely anyway).
the_Sage



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Post   Posted: Sep 29, 2014 - 10:15 Reply with quote Back to top
Yeah, I know Garion, this was me disagreeing with the rules, rather than with the site's implementation of them. =)

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