Calcium
Joined: Apr 08, 2007
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Nov 15, 2014 - 12:19 |
 
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I thought that the following suggestion in This thread was brill.
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Big Guys should be immune to claw IMHO. |
Now this is a GREAT idea! It fits the fluff, and it would give them a real buff. It would also make a lot of teams that play with a big guy slightly more attractive.
I then got wondering, would a further buff to big guys against PO be worth considering? As it stands big guys are as effective as halflings in the face of clawPOMB, which seems to me to be a bit daft fluff wise.
Anyhow, thx again to Wizfall for getting my brain working on a Saturday morning! |
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member1234
Joined: Mar 09, 2005
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Nov 15, 2014 - 12:20 |
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Make it that only ST5+ Can Pile on as well. 
Minotards everywhere! |
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harvestmouse
Joined: May 13, 2007
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Nov 15, 2014 - 12:22 |
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| Calcium wrote: | I thought that the following suggestion in This thread was brill.
| Wizfall wrote: |
Big Guys should be immune to claw IMHO. |
Now this is a GREAT idea! It fits the fluff, and it would give them a real buff. It would also make a lot of teams that play with a big guy slightly more attractive.
I then got wondering, would a further buff to big guys against PO be worth considering? As it stands big guys are as effective as halflings in the face of clawPOMB, which seems to me to be a bit daft fluff wise.
Anyhow, thx again to Wizfall for getting my brain working on a Saturday morning! |
Piling on should take a lot of weight or at least great strength. So my buff would be that only ST5 and above players can pile on.
That fixes another little problem too! |
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Calcium
Joined: Apr 08, 2007
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Nov 15, 2014 - 12:25 |
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Gotta be honest, I like the PO only to ST5+ idea, would it be available to any player that gets a stat increase to ST5? |
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member1234
Joined: Mar 09, 2005
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Nov 15, 2014 - 12:36 |
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I'd say yes. Makes those players extra special too, and still wouldn't see it everywhere then. |
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koadah
Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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Nov 15, 2014 - 12:39 |
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| harvestmouse wrote: |
Piling on should take a lot of weight or at least great strength. So my buff would be that only ST5 and above players can pile on.
That fixes another little problem too! |
We've had this before.
Even an 11 stone guy coming down hard on your head/arm/leg etc with his knee/elbow is gonna do you some damage.
You don't have to be Siragusa.
PO is totally in the spirit of the game. Just needs a nerf. |
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JimmyFantastic
Joined: Feb 06, 2007
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Nov 15, 2014 - 12:48 |
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| koadah wrote: | Even an 11 stone guy coming down hard on your head/arm/leg etc with his knee/elbow is gonna do you some damage.
You don't have to be Siragusa.
PO is totally in the spirit of the game. Just needs a nerf. |
Sorry but I think this kind of thing is covered by a block action.
And definitely covered by mighty blow. |
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Calcium
Joined: Apr 08, 2007
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Nov 15, 2014 - 12:57 |
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Yeah, on further reflection all the points here are good. I still like big guys being immune to claw, and I do like the suggestion that PO can only be used for injury, if for no other reason than to shut up all those *snip* that bleat on about clawPOMB..... |
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koadah
Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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Nov 15, 2014 - 13:08 |
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| JimmyFantastic wrote: | | koadah wrote: | Even an 11 stone guy coming down hard on your head/arm/leg etc with his knee/elbow is gonna do you some damage.
You don't have to be Siragusa.
PO is totally in the spirit of the game. Just needs a nerf. |
Sorry but I think this kind of thing is covered by a block action.
And definitely covered by mighty blow. |
No, no, no. Piling on is an extra movement. Ideally you should be 'a little late' to ensure that you are landing with maximum momentum. 
If would be fair to consider it a foul if it is 'too blatant'. But 'unnecessary roughness' doesn't seem to fit the fluff.
Sent to KO Box on doubles (self injury/sin binned).
Makes it a bit more tactical. Do you still want to pile on all those no skill rookies with your legends?
[L]eague already has this though I haven't tried it. |
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JimmyFantastic
Joined: Feb 06, 2007
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Nov 15, 2014 - 13:35 |
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Honestly dude I just look at MB as all these extra ways to cause damage.
PO is just overly descriptive and a bit stupid. |
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Harad
Joined: May 11, 2014
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Nov 15, 2014 - 14:01 |
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Yup I can't remember who it was who came up with piling on being only for big guys but I love it as an idea. Much better than the nonsense I came up with. Gives them the fear factor they deserve. Keeps the carnage but not quite so game ending.
I know it's probably all academic given the difficulty of changing the rules but I agree with Calcium that taking out big guys with claw always seems a bit naff. |
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koadah
Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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Nov 15, 2014 - 14:19 |
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| JimmyFantastic wrote: | Honestly dude I just look at MB as all these extra ways to cause damage.
PO is just overly descriptive and a bit stupid. |
Heh heh.
Well, I was one of the little fellers at school being an August boy.
Piling on was one of the key ways that we could rough up and intimidate the big guys
It's part of the game.
Don't take away our piling on Mr. |
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JimmyFantastic
Joined: Feb 06, 2007
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Nov 15, 2014 - 14:24 |
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Do you see what I mean though? MB means u hurt people better. I don't think Varag would be incapable of "piling on" to someone. If you are gonna have Piling On why not have Biting, Eye Gouging, Groin Kicking etc etc. |
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JackassRampant
Joined: Feb 26, 2011
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Nov 15, 2014 - 14:44 |
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MB means you hurt people better with your everyday football blocks, that you "lower the boom" so to speak. PO means you "sell out" and "go the extra mile" to do it.
Simple nerf: if you PO and the RR is a double you're ejected. You can spend a Bribe if you want…. |
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JimmyFantastic
Joined: Feb 06, 2007
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Nov 15, 2014 - 14:47 |
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I do not think BB has regular football blocks. Look at the fluff and races and spikes and injuries etc. but there you go. That's what I think and that's why I think PO is dumb and should never have been a skill in the first place. |
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