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Joined: Sep 03, 2010

Posted: Jun 05, 2015 - 14:39

The phantom stunty conceder has been unmasked! The shame.

Actually hasn't tibbo just been named and shamed? Lock the thread forthwith! A travesty has occurred!

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tibbo

Joined: Aug 09, 2014

Posted: Jun 05, 2015 - 15:23

Incidently Zed , i've put 3 people onto fumbbl, you have destroyed two of them and they haven't come back since. Your a fantastic player, but most certainly not enjoyable to play.

CastleMan

Joined: Apr 26, 2013

Posted: Jun 05, 2015 - 15:27

so much hate. cant we all just foul all menz?

MDeLarge

Joined: Aug 07, 2013

Posted: Jun 05, 2015 - 15:31

Why does he concede allways in turn 5 or 6?

tibbo

Joined: Aug 09, 2014

Posted: Jun 05, 2015 - 15:39

i have conceded 5 times in 185 odd games

JanMattys

Joined: Feb 29, 2004

Posted: Jun 05, 2015 - 15:50

tibbo wrote:

Incidently Zed , i've put 3 people onto fumbbl, you have destroyed two of them and they haven't come back since. Your a fantastic player, but most certainly not enjoyable to play.

As much as I believe in a smooth welcoming experience for newcomers, people who can't cope with defeat are probably better suited for another hobby (and another community).

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Calcium

Joined: Apr 08, 2007

Posted: Jun 05, 2015 - 16:14

JanMattys wrote:

tibbo wrote:

Incidently Zed , i've put 3 people onto fumbbl, you have destroyed two of them and they haven't come back since. Your a fantastic player, but most certainly not enjoyable to play.

As much as I believe in a smooth welcoming experience for newcomers, people who can't cope with defeat are probably better suited for another hobby (and another community).

Zed's the resident team destroyer here? Laughing

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Joined: Jun 13, 2009

Posted: Jun 05, 2015 - 16:16

tibbo wrote:

Incidently Zed , i've put 3 people onto fumbbl, you have destroyed two of them and they haven't come back since. Your a fantastic player, but most certainly not enjoyable to play.

May I recommend playing in the League division? It seems like you want to avoid bashy coaches and teams. There are lots of elf-based leagues that I think might suit you and your friends better than the open competitive divisions.

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koadah

Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Posted: Jun 05, 2015 - 16:19

tibbo wrote:

i have conceded 5 times in 185 odd games

But three were very recently. That sounds like a story.

Really though, I thnk that 5 in 185 is quite a lot for Fumbbl. I have I think 2 in 1100. Not counting Test division.

JanMattys wrote:

tibbo wrote:

Incidently Zed , i've put 3 people onto fumbbl, you have destroyed two of them and they haven't come back since. Your a fantastic player, but most certainly not enjoyable to play.

As much as I believe in a smooth welcoming experience for newcomers, people who can't cope with defeat are probably better suited for another hobby (and another community).

A lot of people can take losing. But getting completely destroyed game after game can get old pretty quickly.

Rookies probably think that playing vs flings will be an easy match. They maybe then think "I got killed by flings! I'll have no chance vs anyone."

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Leilond

Joined: Jan 02, 2012

Posted: Jun 05, 2015 - 16:58

Firing healty players (except for 15th zombie/rotter) is using a rule written for leagues (the TV system) to gain some benefit in a completely different environment (Black Box)
You'll never see a two skilled player fired in a league (expecially positionals fired to reroll them), because it doesn't help in the league

If you don't like this system exploiting (because it's nothing more than that, not minmaxing nor TV management, it's using a rule intended for a game, to gain benefits in another game), just find a good League (or a couple if you have more time to spare) and play there. Leagues are 10 times better than any Black Box or Ranked division out there

I think we really need some special rules for R and B, instead of using the TV system, simply because it's not written for those environment and thus it doesn't work properly. I don't know the specific rule we need. Pheraps starting to forbit to fire a healty skilled player or a player that player at least 3 matches or something like that. This, only to start. Then the matchups, that should be based not only on the TV, but also on some way to intercept "single player based teams" (like teams with 2-3 super skilled players in a full of rookie gits) and give those teams a value to be added to the TV (like adding something like 70k for each legend and 40K for each superstar)
Just ideas, and just my thought

koadah

Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Posted: Jun 05, 2015 - 17:29

Leilond wrote:

Firing healty players (except for 15th zombie/rotter) is using a rule written for leagues (the TV system) to gain some benefit in a completely different environment (Black Box)
You'll never see a two skilled player fired in a league (expecially positionals fired to reroll them), because it doesn't help in the league

Yes, you will see it.

For one thing you'll see it if a player has poor skills.
You'll see it when teams try to avoid spiralling expenses.

The main reason teams don't do it is because teams play fewer games and have less money for replacements.

The O[L]C has had a lot of giant killings recently. Having a big team is great if the team is tight. But if it is not efficient then a tight small team packing a wizard, good stars, bribes etc is gonna have you.

Min/maxing is not a problem in [L]eague (IMO) but it is part of the game. Some players (mainly linos) are just not worth taking to three+ skills without a double or +stat. They may be decent players for a while but when better players over take them they may well be too expensive to sit on the bench.

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Antithesisoftime

Joined: Aug 20, 2014

Posted: Jun 05, 2015 - 17:42

koadah wrote:

A lot of people can take losing. But getting completely destroyed game after game can get old pretty quickly.

Rookies probably think that playing vs flings will be an easy match. They maybe then think "I got killed by flings! I'll have no chance vs anyone."

There is nothing more terrifying than a developed fling team. A couple of my worst losses have come against flings, though the absolute worst was a complete one-sided dicing as well.

I've watched some incredibly amusing games as well. One such game involved an All-Snotling team completely destroying some Dark Elves in a Rookie Rumble.

Fingard

Joined: Oct 07, 2008

Posted: Jun 05, 2015 - 17:54

Leilond wrote:

Basing matchups on TV is using a rule written for leagues (the TV system) for a different purpose

Fixed it for you.

Leilond wrote:

I think we really need some special rules for [...] B

They already exist: matchups are based on TV instead of pure random.
Maybe you don't like these rules.
I do: they make team building a challenge and force coaches to think if a player and its skills are worth their TV or not, instead of farming skills and players without consequences.

garyt1

Joined: Mar 12, 2011

Posted: Jun 05, 2015 - 19:10

MDeLarge wrote:

Why does he concede allways in turn 5 or 6?

I heard there is a betting ring involved.

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awambawamb

Joined: Feb 17, 2008

Posted: Jun 05, 2015 - 19:30

Kam wrote:

tibbo wrote:

gjopie wrote:

Hmmm...not sure that is quite true....

Stunty concessions are the lowest of the low!

lol way to bring up the past. i gave stunty a go. didnt enjoy it , dont think i've played it since. Don't see how that is relevant.

You're all wrong! Conceding against Stunties is worst. Very Happy

indeed!

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