Kondor
Joined: Apr 04, 2008
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Jul 25, 2015 - 06:59 |
 
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Ok, ok, I know. All say the deathroller is not worth the price of admission. My question is, do you think that still holds true at higher TV in the box?
I am considering purchasing one. At 1600+TV you see a ton of claw so any of your players could disappear at any time. This thing is probably sticking around for an entire half causing mayhem where ever it goes. In the center of your cage it is going nowhere.
Run a squad of 14 dwarfs, and one good drive could be enough to get you the win or at the very least a tie.
Oh, and in a realm where you often play up 100+ TV you will be able to afford a bribe too.
Thoughts? |
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Antithesisoftime
Joined: Aug 20, 2014
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Jul 25, 2015 - 07:27 |
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The Roller is a piece of crap.
It's useful in some games, and always a good inducement, but as a teammate with loner it's a TV sink.
Now, if it still had it's old +4 on foul rolls... |
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harvestmouse
Joined: May 13, 2007
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Jul 25, 2015 - 07:44 |
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Grod
Joined: Sep 30, 2003
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Jul 25, 2015 - 08:09 |
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Death roller is great in open Leagues, particularly at higher TVs. It is completely useless against Elves (unless you manage to roll a skill double and get diving tackle). In ranked and blackbox where you play even TV games it is more questionable.
Basically it evens out your performances:
Makes you a bit worse against teams you already have an advantage over (essentially elves and skaven) and a lot better against teams you normally have problems with (Khemri, Lizardmen, nurgle, Chaos, Orcs etc).
I have found it to be one of the only counters against claw heavy teams. Use the death roller to attract attention, just don't let it get isolated to the point that it can be actually taken out.
I actually managed to win SWL with a death roller on this team: https://fumbbl.com/p/team?team_id=767231 . I was surprised how good it turned out in practice, not many people thought it was a good idea.
The death roller is easily the single best piece you can field on a blood bowl field, its only drawback is that you usually get to field it just once... |
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DrDiscoStu
Joined: Feb 20, 2006
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Jul 25, 2015 - 10:11 |
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I rate it, although I've always felt DT is the first double, against the advice of everyone. Just pointing out that when it comes to dwarves, call me John Snow. |
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Rabe
Joined: Jun 06, 2009
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Jul 25, 2015 - 11:14 |
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+1 to what Grod said.
I'm one of the few people who think it's a good idea to use the roller.  |
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PaddyMick
Joined: Jan 03, 2012
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Jul 25, 2015 - 11:39 |
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I'm with fred durst on this one
it may be a loner but it has no on-field negatrait
also its super cool |
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selfy_74
Joined: Sep 03, 2010
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Jul 25, 2015 - 11:51 |
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Purplegoo
Joined: Mar 23, 2006
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Jul 25, 2015 - 11:57 |
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Thought 1: Fun / cool.
Thought 2: Diving Tackle. |
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Kondor
Joined: Apr 04, 2008
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Jul 25, 2015 - 13:36 |
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Well, after reading the other deathroller thread, I decided to give it a shot. See how it goes. |
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Mr_Foulscumm
Joined: Mar 05, 2005
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Jul 25, 2015 - 18:55 |
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I just tried the roller as an inducment along with a bribe. It was pretty damn useful actually. |
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lemf
Joined: Jul 17, 2005
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Jul 25, 2015 - 19:43 |
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In my tt League it gets a lot of attention and has been very beneficial.
First skill +MA 2nd Dodge next skill hmmmmmm not yet |
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licker
Joined: Jul 10, 2009
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Jul 25, 2015 - 20:01 |
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Why is it so useless against elfs? Because they score quick and send it off? Maybe, but you should pack a bribe when you can...
It's still (usually) three dice on any elf, and with break tackle it can get into screens and cages if you can force that situation or if your opponent just isn't setting it up right.
Though, I don't care for it myself, but if you are a lower TV dwarf team in a league I'd give it strong consideration since you can induce bribes. |
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PainState
Joined: Apr 04, 2007
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Jul 25, 2015 - 20:18 |
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I love my deathroller which has sneaky git and jump up. Plus it is a league team that plays in the All Stars league so we always seem to get 2 or 3 bribes per match.
In the end it is all about getting bribes. |
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Wreckage
Joined: Aug 15, 2004
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Jul 25, 2015 - 20:21 |
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I read the title and my imidiate thought was: how amazing is it that we have drollers in this ruleset?
...if you are into metagaming a droller I'd spontaneously recommend hording tons of cash and then inducing bribes every game.
That being said I haven't come around to run a dwarf team with a droller yet. Dwarves are kinda boring unfortunately. |
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