p4m
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Nightbird
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Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Sep 25, 2015 - 16:33 |
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CR broken?
Answer: No, but it's over-rated. |
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xnoelx
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Joined: Jun 05, 2012
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Sep 25, 2015 - 16:34 |
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Remember that CR is only a guide to the likelihood of a coach winning their next game. Not of overall skill over a long period. As such, someone using a team like this in a lot of their recent games is likely to win a lot and hence do exactly what the team name suggests.
It's not so much that CR is broken, more that people forget or misconstrue what it really represents. |
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licker
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Joined: Jul 10, 2009
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Sep 25, 2015 - 16:35 |
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It is broken.
As a measure of actual coaching ability.
As a measure of e-peen?
Probably works ok. |
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easilyamused
Joined: Jun 06, 2008
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Sep 25, 2015 - 16:37 |
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Yeah, they don't seem right.
You should not have legend status with a CR of 152..... |
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p4m
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Sep 25, 2015 - 16:37 |
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xnoelx wrote: | Remember that CR is only a guide to the likelihood of a coach winning their next game. Not of overall skill over a long period. |
so it was changed and i missed the change... so it's overrated - yes |
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koadah
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Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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Sep 25, 2015 - 16:38 |
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xnoelx
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Joined: Jun 05, 2012
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Sep 25, 2015 - 16:42 |
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p4m wrote: | xnoelx wrote: | Remember that CR is only a guide to the likelihood of a coach winning their next game. Not of overall skill over a long period. |
so it was changed and i missed the change... so it's overrated - yes |
No, it wasn't changed. That's what it has always been. |
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Mr_Foulscumm
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Joined: Mar 05, 2005
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Sep 25, 2015 - 17:06 |
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A Legend with 35% win ratio and CR-152. Yeah something isn't working properly there. |
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Mr_Foulscumm
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Joined: Mar 05, 2005
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Sep 25, 2015 - 17:09 |
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Although, the 164 CR coach could possibly have beaten a couple of high CR opponents and shot up massively in CR due to that, so low win% doesn't really matter.
The other one is a puzzle though. |
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Bobs
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Joined: Feb 26, 2009
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Sep 25, 2015 - 17:18 |
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I've noticed you need to go above a certain mark and stay there for a few games to get legend status. Getting the points is one thing but you have to earn the status.
That's why some legend coaches can have a lower cr than superstars, and visa-versa. |
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licker
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Joined: Jul 10, 2009
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Sep 25, 2015 - 17:22 |
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I still wish CR would just go away... at least from public view, if it is used in matchmaking somewhere, fine, just hide it. |
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MattDakka
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Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Sep 25, 2015 - 17:32 |
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licker wrote: | I still wish CR would just go away... at least from public view, if it is used in matchmaking somewhere, fine, just hide it. |
But keep the win rate% please. |
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Stimme
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Joined: Jun 30, 2013
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Sep 25, 2015 - 17:39 |
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Unless I completely misunderstand the way it is calculated, it reflects the outcome of your last matches. If you managed to beat three legend/high CR coaches in a row, your rating goes up strongly. If you are a legend coach and lose four games in a row to an emerging star, it drops down dramatically.
Seems fair, no? Otherwise people with a flat learning curve could never improve their rating, if all the last 1000 games were taken in account. That's what win % is good for. |
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JimmyFantastic
Joined: Feb 06, 2007
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Sep 25, 2015 - 17:41 |
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I think CR should be called "Form" |
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