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jonno



Joined: Mar 14, 2014
Post   Posted: Sep 30, 2015 - 19:28 Reply with quote Back to top
I wanted to ask how I made Strip Ball optional, but as I read the skill description, I realize that it might in fact not be an optional skill.

Can I choose to not use Strip Ball?

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Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009
Post   Posted: Sep 30, 2015 - 19:32 Reply with quote Back to top
Nope , not an optional skill. On fumbbl anyway. I think it is optional in table top mind, but I suspect this wasn't coded because it would be soooooooooo rare that anyone would say 'no,' that the addition pop-up it would create would just get annoying.

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sann0638



Joined: Aug 09, 2010
Post   Posted: Sep 30, 2015 - 19:32 Reply with quote Back to top
Don't know about the client, but I would say yes in CRP. But it's not clear actually, re-reading the rules.

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akaRenton



Joined: Apr 15, 2008
Post   Posted: Sep 30, 2015 - 19:33 Reply with quote Back to top
Not optional in the client.

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Catalyst32



Joined: Jul 14, 2008
Post   Posted: Sep 30, 2015 - 19:46 Reply with quote Back to top
Why would anyone SELECT Strip Ball on a skill-up... then USE the player with Strip Ball to Block or Blitz the BALL CARRIER... and choose NOT to use Strip Ball?
JimmyFantastic



Joined: Feb 06, 2007
Post   Posted: Sep 30, 2015 - 19:47 Reply with quote Back to top
Catalyst32 wrote:
Why would anyone SELECT Strip Ball on a skill-up... then USE the player with Strip Ball to Block or Blitz the BALL CARRIER... and choose NOT to use Strip Ball?


To force a TD.

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Dominik



Joined: Oct 29, 2004
Post   Posted: Sep 30, 2015 - 19:47 Reply with quote Back to top
Which would be the case to not use Strip Ball? Ball out of reach for the potential scorer and a throw in is required so the current ball carrier has to be crowd surfed? Any other situation imagineable?
jonno



Joined: Mar 14, 2014
Post   Posted: Sep 30, 2015 - 20:01 Reply with quote Back to top
Garion wrote:
Nope , not an optional skill. On fumbbl anyway. I think it is optional in table top mind, but I suspect this wasn't coded because it would be soooooooooo rare that anyone would say 'no,' that the addition pop-up it would create would just get annoying.


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Catalyst32



Joined: Jul 14, 2008
Post   Posted: Sep 30, 2015 - 20:02 Reply with quote Back to top
JimmyFantastic wrote:
Catalyst32 wrote:
Why would anyone SELECT Strip Ball on a skill-up... then USE the player with Strip Ball to Block or Blitz the BALL CARRIER... and choose NOT to use Strip Ball?


To force a TD.


So you force a TD and then what?

You are either down 0-1...
or tied 1-1...
or down 2-1...
or tied 2-2...
etc. etc. etc.

If you force a TD you either move yourself from a potential TIE into a potential LOSS.
OR you move yourself from a potential WIN into a potential TIE.

You then MUST score a TD to TIE (as in scenario 1) or you must then score a TD to WIN (as in scenario 2).
Most times you are just a likely to TIE or WIN in these scenarios WITHOUT forcing the TD.
If you would only take the ball away from your opponent you already achieve the best option available.

On top of all that you can just Block or Blitz with a player that doesn't have Strip Ball.
jonno



Joined: Mar 14, 2014
Post   Posted: Sep 30, 2015 - 20:03 Reply with quote Back to top
Catalyst32 wrote:
Why would anyone SELECT Strip Ball on a skill-up... then USE the player with Strip Ball to Block or Blitz the BALL CARRIER... and choose NOT to use Strip Ball?


Say you have a frenzy + strip ball-player and would rather surf the ball carrier from a side cage with the ball and hope for a favourable throw-in?
PurpleChest



Joined: Oct 25, 2003
Post   Posted: Sep 30, 2015 - 20:10
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Don't be dense. he can stall out for 6 turns and win 2-1 or you can force him over the line with your ag1 player and get all 15 Ko players back and try to get the equalizer.

There are many situations (i can think of more than 5) where not strip balling is the better chocie but each iS HIGHLY rare.

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pythrr



Joined: Mar 07, 2006
Post   Posted: Sep 30, 2015 - 20:12 Reply with quote Back to top
yup, should be optional for reasons above.

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Purplegoo



Joined: Mar 23, 2006
Post   Posted: Sep 30, 2015 - 20:13 Reply with quote Back to top
Indeed, should be.

But there we enter 'real life vs. the client. What should we jettison in the name of convenience and the user experience?'. And since I won on being asked to use Dodge, I'll not push this one too hard...
Roland



Joined: May 12, 2004
Post   Posted: Sep 30, 2015 - 20:27 Reply with quote Back to top
Also, if there is a sideline scrum, one might not use in order to surf+throw in instead of ball bouncing all over the place
Dominik



Joined: Oct 29, 2004
Post   Posted: Oct 01, 2015 - 03:49 Reply with quote Back to top
Maybe that is a task for the next version of the blood bowl client, to ask the active coach to not use strip ball in case the blocked ball carrier could be pushed to the touchdown zone.
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