Oboto
Joined: Apr 13, 2016
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Apr 13, 2016 - 15:24 |
 
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I am little confused about the bloodbowl companian rules about dwarf death rollers.
Is a death roller treated like a large monster, thus taking up 2x2 squares? At least, that's what the rules say about "machineries of destruction".
On the other hand, the rules for the "death roller" say, that it attacks all "three" squares in front of it. This indicates that it only takes up one square or is at least 3 squares wide.
My (fresh and blinking) new death roller model is placed on a large base (2x2). So it must actually able to attack two or four squares in front of it.
Can anybody help me clarify this? |
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Badoek
Joined: May 17, 2009
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Apr 13, 2016 - 15:28 |
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check here to see for yourself
In the current rules the Deathroller is only one square, just like all the other players. Goblin, Dorf, Human, Ogre, Treeman. All one square. |
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mister__joshua
Joined: Jun 20, 2007
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Which rules version and additions are you using? It doesn't sound like the most recent (CRP) rules which treat the 'roller as just another player. Older versions had special rules for it, which it sounds like you're reading  |
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Oboto
Joined: Apr 13, 2016
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Apr 13, 2016 - 15:51 |
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My rules I grabbed from a dusty old shelf in the cellar. They almost crackled to dust when they where exposed to sunlight after all these years. The Bloodbowl Companian is from 1990 - that's what the cover says And Large Monsters taking up only ONE square makes my little world tumble! Which are the most recent rules? |
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mister__joshua
Joined: Jun 20, 2007
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I'm not sure we're allowed to post them, but if you google Blood Bowl CRP Rules it's the top link.
The Companion you have is from 2nd edition. The current rules are on about their 6th iteration of 3rd edition. A LOT has changed from second edition, so if you wanted to play them you'll likely need to read the whole book (and get some block dice) 
Edit: Alternatively you can try a game here, for free!  |
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Badoek
Joined: May 17, 2009
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Apr 13, 2016 - 16:11 |
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The Competition Rules Pack (CRP). IIRC we can't link to them but you can find them on the NAF site. Google can help you. |
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xnoelx
Joined: Jun 05, 2012
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Apr 13, 2016 - 16:42 |
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Actually, more like the 10th version of 3rd edition, all of which are basically the same game, but quite different from 1st or 2nd edition. More details here.
But yeah, go to the NAF site (www.thenaf.net), hover over 'Blood Bowl' in the top menu, and click on 'Rules'. Then hit the big 'Get the CRP' button.
And I'm pretty sure in 2nd edition the DR only took up 1 square. |
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mister__joshua
Joined: Jun 20, 2007
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| xnoelx wrote: | Actually, more like the 10th version of 3rd edition, all of which are basically the same game, but quite different from 1st or 2nd edition. More details here.
But yeah, go to the NAF site (www.thenaf.net), hover over 'Blood Bowl' in the top menu, and click on 'Rules'. Then hit the big 'Get the CRP' button.
And I'm pretty sure in 2nd edition the DR only took up 1 square. |
Having recently (last week) played a game on the old 2nd edition board, there's no way you'd fit a deathroller on one square. They're tiny!
I knew there were more than 6 editions, but hadn't counted. There's basic 3rd, Deathzone, Gold Edition, LRB1-6, CRP. Is that it? |
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xnoelx
Joined: Jun 05, 2012
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Apr 13, 2016 - 17:00 |
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Oh yeah, the mini took up 2 squares. But rules-wise, as far as I recall, it was meant to fit in one square. Much the way that most big guy minis take up more than one square nowadays.
I consider Death Zone as an integral part of the original 3rd ed. But taking a closer look, there were more than 10 editions. 3rd (&DZ), 4th, 4th gold, LRB1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4, 2, 3, 4, 5, and CRP. So at least 12, maybe 14 if you count DZ separately and LRB6 as different from CRP. |
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Reisender
Joined: Sep 29, 2007
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Apr 13, 2016 - 19:17 |
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in 2nd edition (from star players onward), large monsters took 4 squares - there were even detailed rules on how to move them
here is a nice overview
http://www.blueblood.de/bloodbowl/history.html
(i hope i can link this? otherwise please remove or tell me to do it) |
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harvestmouse
Joined: May 13, 2007
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Apr 13, 2016 - 22:09 |
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Yes you are confusing 2 majorly different rulings. 2nd edition and 3rd edition onwards handled big guys very differently.
In second ed big guys had super strength and large bases. This also allowed for multiple blocking. It also meant they had their own special 4x4 template. As Mr J pointed out the 2nd ed pitch had smaller squares and there was no way to play rollers on 1 only.
However 3rd onwards all players take up 1 square no matter what their size. |
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Lorebass
Joined: Jun 25, 2010
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Yes. It's now 50% easier to score with a tree man! |
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