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Lucci



Joined: Sep 19, 2016

Post   Posted: Oct 04, 2016 - 14:16 Reply with quote Back to top

Hi people,

today, i used my brand almost new safe-throw, laughing alone for being so evil because it seemed to me that if i try a 6+ pass and fail, then i keep the ball, but didn't expect a turnover... Thought i could continue to play like nothing happened !!!

So, was it something in my eye, a miss-click, or did it really happen & safe throw doesn't avoid the turnover when you miss the pass ?

Please say NO !
ben_awesome



Joined: May 11, 2016

Post   Posted: Oct 04, 2016 - 14:29 Reply with quote Back to top

it will allow you to hold onto the ball if you fumble it. If you miss the pass you miss the pass.
Medon



Joined: Jan 28, 2015

Post   Posted: Oct 04, 2016 - 14:36 Reply with quote Back to top

Not for natural 1s, they still cause a turnover. So your 6+ pass is 2+ from a fumble turnover point of view (just like HMP)
Medon



Joined: Jan 28, 2015

Post   Posted: Oct 04, 2016 - 14:38 Reply with quote Back to top

(plus indeed, if you fail to catch by whatever reason including scattered passes)
Nextflux



Joined: Jan 22, 2008

Post   Posted: Oct 04, 2016 - 14:46 Reply with quote Back to top

Safe throw is to avoid interception, make an unmodifired agility roll to avoid.
Also it cancels a fumble EXCEPT when its a natural 1, anything fails on a natural 1 and anything succeeds on a natural 6.
Uedder



Joined: Aug 03, 2010

Post   Posted: Oct 04, 2016 - 15:03 Reply with quote Back to top

I think what he's asking is "I suffered a turnover missing a throw with safe throw. It wasn't a 1, the thrower still had the ball, but it was a turnover nonetheless. Is this how the skill works?"

I don't know the answer tho.
Kryten



Joined: Sep 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Oct 04, 2016 - 15:12
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It's a bug. Safe Throw should not cause a turnover in that manner, but it does. Plan accordingly. https://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=bugs&op=view&id=1426
AutoAxpert



Joined: Oct 13, 2015

Post   Posted: Oct 04, 2016 - 15:15 Reply with quote Back to top

Is it possible that the thrower fumbled the ball and then caught it again after the bounce?

Can you show us the log?

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xnoelx



Joined: Jun 05, 2012

Post   Posted: Oct 04, 2016 - 15:33 Reply with quote Back to top

It's from turn 2, 2nd half of this game. The WE Thrower rolled a 4 on a 5+ long pass in the sun, rerolled to a 3 and correctly held on to the ball. Then the bug caused a turnover.

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Volguus



Joined: Sep 19, 2016

Post   Posted: Oct 04, 2016 - 16:37 Reply with quote Back to top

Sorry Lucci, that did indeed seem like a bug when it happened. At least I rolled many, many, many skulls. And made many, many, many noobish mistakes. All well that ends well? Smile

- Volguus, the guy whose Orcs took a beating in that game.
Lucci



Joined: Sep 19, 2016

Post   Posted: Oct 04, 2016 - 17:17 Reply with quote Back to top

Lol ! Very Happy


Uedder your rephrasing is so great, better than my thought.
Found the experts right here.
You're really great guys !
Thank you for the answer !
m0gw41



Joined: Jun 12, 2012

Post   Posted: Oct 04, 2016 - 18:17 Reply with quote Back to top

Anyone know how safe throw works with bombs in this regard? i.e. does a non-1 fumble roll result in the thing blowing itself up? If so, should it?

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sheepycollins



Joined: Sep 21, 2015

Post   Posted: Oct 04, 2016 - 18:33 Reply with quote Back to top

States except when throwing bombs and team mates

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Gibsie



Joined: Jul 01, 2016

Post   Posted: Oct 04, 2016 - 18:51 Reply with quote Back to top

Glad I didn't take Safe Throw when I was mulling over my Elf Thrower's options the other day...
ignatzami



Joined: Aug 18, 2008

Post   Posted: Oct 04, 2016 - 19:10 Reply with quote Back to top

Issues like this are why I'm annoyed that the Client is still closed-source. Active development should be ongoing, but it's not. Sad
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