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UberEvil



Joined: Oct 20, 2003

Post 22 Posted: Jun 08, 2004 - 15:15 Reply with quote Back to top

Hi all.

I got into a funny mood and decided to calculate what skill to choose: MB, RSC or Claw. I made the assumption that the opponent had been knocked over and then calculated the odds of him/her being SI'd, KO'd or stunned with different combinations of skills. Since I recently began playing stunty I made the same tables for them too. You wan't to optimize you stunty carnage, don't you?

I couldn't fit the results into this post so I had to make a crappy little webpage about it. I put the whole thing here. Go have a look and laugh at the whole thing, or possibly use it to choose your next bashing skill.
Jarnageddon



Joined: Nov 04, 2003

Post   Posted: Jun 08, 2004 - 15:35 Reply with quote Back to top

I like it. pretty useful

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mUst



Joined: Jan 05, 2004

Post   Posted: Jun 08, 2004 - 15:38 Reply with quote Back to top

so, you asume that the armorroll was made too?
UberEvil



Joined: Oct 20, 2003

Post   Posted: Jun 08, 2004 - 15:41 Reply with quote Back to top

No, no assumption about armour roll. Only that a pow or similar has been rolled.

Calculated is (probability to break AV)*(probability to cause some kind of injury)
JanMattys



Joined: Feb 29, 2004

Post   Posted: Jun 08, 2004 - 15:44 Reply with quote Back to top

AV 7 = RSC is better than Claw
AV8, 9, 10 etc = Claw is better than RSC

Mighty Blow requires no doubles, so TAKE IT after Block and Guard!!! Very Happy

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UberEvil



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Post   Posted: Jun 08, 2004 - 15:52 Reply with quote Back to top

jan_mattys wrote:
AV 7 = RSC is better than Claw
AV8, 9, 10 etc = Claw is better than RSC

Well if it is stunty you are correct. But if it's normal then it is a matter of opinion. AV8 and RSC will cause more injuries than AV8 and Claw. But if knocking out is a viable option Claw is strongly considerable. But at AV9 Claw is always better (unless you don't want to harm your opponent that is)
jan_mattys wrote:
Mighty Blow requires no doubles, so TAKE IT after Block and Guard!!!

Unless you need that tackle to knock them down first Wink


Last edited by UberEvil on Jun 08, 2004 - 15:55; edited 1 time in total
Mezir



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Jun 08, 2004 - 15:54 Reply with quote Back to top

How about adding PO to that thingamajigg? Would be nice to see the effect.

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UberEvil



Joined: Oct 20, 2003

Post   Posted: Jun 08, 2004 - 15:56 Reply with quote Back to top

Mezir wrote:
How about adding PO to that thingamajigg? Would be nice to see the effect.

I might do that. I'll just take a shower, eat some burgers and take a shower first. Check back later.
Doowa



Joined: Nov 25, 2003

Post   Posted: Jun 08, 2004 - 16:09 Reply with quote Back to top

Very nice, not that the results are that surprising, it's still fun to get some numbers on it Wink

thanks
/Doowa, whom will always take Claw. I'd Rather have a stun then just a prone any day Smile

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Mezir



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Jun 08, 2004 - 16:16 Reply with quote Back to top

Also looking at it from a player development point of view, if you're going for Claw + RSC (still the best combo) you're better off taking Claw first - since if you are forced to take Mighty Blow later due to lack of doubles you'll have a higher chance to KO or worse your opponent than with RSC and Mighty Blow (though chances to cas will still be marginally lower).

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kurre



Joined: Oct 14, 2003

Post   Posted: Jun 08, 2004 - 16:24 Reply with quote Back to top

UberEvil wrote:
Mezir wrote:
How about adding PO to that thingamajigg? Would be nice to see the effect.

I might do that. I'll just take a shower, eat some burgers and take a shower first. Check back later.


Shower, eat and then shower again? You must eat like a pig Smile
UberEvil



Joined: Oct 20, 2003

Post   Posted: Jun 08, 2004 - 16:32 Reply with quote Back to top

Well thats one way to put it. Lets just say that I'm tired of my "friends" refering to as "The Great Unclean One". Or it was a typo... you may choose the answer you like the most Wink
mobo



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Jun 08, 2004 - 16:46 Reply with quote Back to top

haha yeah. 2+ showers a day, you must be an elf Smile

Thanks for the stats. Look forward for the PO add.

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UberEvil



Joined: Oct 20, 2003

Post   Posted: Jun 09, 2004 - 20:26 Reply with quote Back to top

Now I've updated the site and added PO. I also made a couple of corrections in the stunty tables. If your colourblind you're gonna have a blast looking at the diagrams, they are very messy. Sorry about it taking some time. Calculating P(SI|MB+PO) gave me a headache... plus I had to take a lot of showers Wink
teflon



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Jun 09, 2004 - 21:55 Reply with quote Back to top

There must be a problem in your calc. as a 100% chance to break armor, then stun even an av1 player isn't 100% whatever the skills. -?-
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