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PainState



Joined: Apr 04, 2007

Post   Posted: Mar 17, 2017 - 16:04 Reply with quote Back to top

The other issue that arises from the PO uses a Team Reroll is that Big Guys no longer want to take the big guy skill....PILE ON...they have to make a loner roll just to use the skill.

Oh, well......

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Tricktickler



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Post   Posted: Mar 17, 2017 - 16:18 Reply with quote Back to top

Claw should have been +1 on AV rolls against everything

Piling On should have been re-roll injury roll only

Aging should have been brought back again but with a different penalty. A failed aging roll should result in a permanent +10 on the casualty table (48 becomes 58 and so on). This would result in aged players dying easier but it wouldn't affect their performance on the field.


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Sigmar1



Joined: Aug 13, 2008

Post   Posted: Mar 17, 2017 - 16:23 Reply with quote Back to top

Desultory wrote:
Surely this change only significantly effects teams that were kill teams and abusing the pile on rule?


Ye Old Keeblers will sorely miss The Oven Master.

Now, I always figured his lifespan was limited, because who's going to pass up booting that guy.

I'd prefer just about any option to changing PO to MB, and agree that Stand Firm is the best possible choice for substitution.

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zakatan



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Post   Posted: Mar 17, 2017 - 16:36 Reply with quote Back to top

I think the biggest hit is on humans, norse and the such, who heavily relied on pomb. With the crap fouling and no po they lost much of their attrition potential.

Claw teams still have ClawMB, which is a very decent combo.

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spelledaren



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Post   Posted: Mar 17, 2017 - 17:07 Reply with quote Back to top

I would also have liked it becoming DP instead Smile

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smallman



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Post   Posted: Mar 18, 2017 - 03:01 Reply with quote Back to top

Bah just played box game with dwaves and first po cost a reroll, surely this is newsworthy. News only says replace po with mb
Desultory



Joined: Jun 24, 2008

Post   Posted: Mar 18, 2017 - 12:40 Reply with quote Back to top

Without quoting. Decreased attrition isn't a bad thing in my opinion as i think it means less luck. I think that was the problem most people had with Pile on anyway whether they knew it or not. It's annoying when that skaven/human cpomb blitzer makes three blitzes and removes three players.

Elves that chose pile on are much more easily replaced, and imo shouldn't have chose pile on as a skill anyway.

Dwarf, Humans, Norse, Orcs? (non mutation) teams are maybe weakened, but the relative difference of CPOMB vs POMB & now CMB vs MB isn't significantly different statistically.

I don't see the problem.

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easilyamused



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Post   Posted: Mar 18, 2017 - 12:43 Reply with quote Back to top

smallman wrote:
Bah just played box game with dwaves and first po cost a reroll, surely this is newsworthy. News only says replace po with mb


It was in the release notes published by Kalimar in the forum.

https://fumbbl.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=22352

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chimp2010



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Post   Posted: Mar 18, 2017 - 12:56 Reply with quote Back to top

So my 263 SPP Blitzer is going to get a second MB that does nothing? so he's permanently been reduced to a Super Star? https://www.fumbbl.com/p/player?player_id=9859372
sann0638



Joined: Aug 09, 2010

Post   Posted: Mar 18, 2017 - 13:06 Reply with quote Back to top

From the release notes:


EDIT: pilingOnUsesATeamReroll now active in all divisions. Skill will be removed in [R] and [B] later.

Is it possible to deactivate it in Leagues, do we know?

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Christer



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Mar 18, 2017 - 13:12
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You can disable PO (or any skill you want) in the ruleset for your league.
DrPoods



Joined: Nov 14, 2013

Post   Posted: Mar 18, 2017 - 14:05 Reply with quote Back to top

I would rather my High Elf blitzer doesn't get double MB. Might not be worth it to keep him.

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sann0638



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Post   Posted: Mar 18, 2017 - 15:14 Reply with quote Back to top

Christer wrote:
You can disable PO (or any skill you want) in the ruleset for your league.


Couldn't see how to do this for this one?

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Gartch



Joined: Sep 07, 2012

Post   Posted: Mar 18, 2017 - 15:19 Reply with quote Back to top

sann0638 wrote:
Christer wrote:
You can disable PO (or any skill you want) in the ruleset for your league.


Couldn't see how to do this for this one?

Hi, I don't manage league, but I saw messages in this thread (page 2) which seem answer your question:
https://fumbbl.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=28002&start=15

I hope it helps
sann0638



Joined: Aug 09, 2010

Post   Posted: Mar 18, 2017 - 15:27 Reply with quote Back to top

Ah, I need to look at rulesets. Thanks for the pointer. Now I just need to figure out how rulesets work. Can't find this Sad

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