pythrr
Joined: Mar 07, 2006
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Aug 03, 2017 - 19:32 |
 
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I've never really managed to figure out why a small subset of coaches (and it is small - most people on fumbbl are pretty ok) find it hard to admit when they roll good dice. For example, one coach I was playing today rolled a ridiculous series of dice to get the ball off me and score. Well done to them. So I commented, and said "wow, that was great dice", and they lost it, telling me that the dice were not good and that it was all skill. I pointed out the run of dice, and they accused me of being rude.
Is it a fragile sense of self-worth and ego? Is it an inability to understand math and probability? Or is it just sociopathy? I'm genuinely curious.
Anyway, discuss as you will. |
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Thunderfrog
Joined: Jul 25, 2017
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Aug 03, 2017 - 19:37 |
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People are sensitive to pointing out good dice of theirs or bad ones of your own for some reason, as if it diminishes their win or skill.
I don't think It's rude at all, tho it might be tedious if someone keeps telling me I'm only winning because of dice.
But im a terrible player, so if I'm winning I recognize that's probably the case anyways. |
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Arktoris
Joined: Feb 16, 2004
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Aug 03, 2017 - 19:43 |
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Those who never try...they are sure to fail. Good dice mean nothing if you lack the vision and guts to use them. It would seem he took offense because your comment shows you refused to acknowledge the nonquantifable parameters influencing the outcome. |
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razmus
Joined: Jun 23, 2017
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Aug 03, 2017 - 20:04 |
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One of the reasons I love seeing the dice statistics after the game. I did have one game in which the opposing coach mentioned that I was getting a lot of [pows], and not so many pushbacks. Turned out he was absolutely right. (https://fumbbl.com/p/match?id=3918737  ) But I'll take those [POWS] and run like a thief. |
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JellyBelly
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Aug 03, 2017 - 20:07 |
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Pff! When I lose, it's always the dice ... when I win, it's always because of my superior skill!  |
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mrt1212
Joined: Feb 26, 2013
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Aug 03, 2017 - 20:10 |
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Pythrrs never ending search for validation contiues unabated into the forums |
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mister__joshua
Joined: Jun 20, 2007
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I can never understand why when people lose a game or concede a TD they have this need to make sure their opponent knows it was all because of dice. Like an 'I'm better than you and would have won, but for dice, and you must also agree and acknowledge this.' |
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mrt1212
Joined: Feb 26, 2013
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Aug 03, 2017 - 20:15 |
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| mister__joshua wrote: | | I can never understand why when people lose a game or concede a TD they have this need to make sure their opponent knows it was all because of dice. Like an 'I'm better than you and would have won, but for dice, and you must also agree and acknowledge this.' |
Yeah, what compels some coaches to comment on dice when we've all rolled thousands of them in the past and are likely to roll thousands in the future? What purpose does it serve? What good can come from it?
Massaging the ego of the dice dispossessed is what it all comes back to which makes the initial accusation of non acknowledgment being related to ego some pretty ugly projection. |
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pythrr
Joined: Mar 07, 2006
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Aug 03, 2017 - 20:20 |
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| mister__joshua wrote: | | I can never understand why when people lose a game or concede a TD they have this need to make sure their opponent knows it was all because of dice. Like an 'I'm better than you and would have won, but for dice, and you must also agree and acknowledge this.' |
you are, with all due respect, entirely misinterpreting what i asked.
I asked about one event, and commenting "great dice" on that one event.
I'm not talking about a post-match comment, but in game, as part of an observation. nowhere do i say "I'm better than you and would have won, but for dice". You are putting words in my mouth, and I would expect more impartiality from a site admin. |
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mrt1212
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Aug 03, 2017 - 20:23 |
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| pythrr wrote: | | mister__joshua wrote: | | I can never understand why when people lose a game or concede a TD they have this need to make sure their opponent knows it was all because of dice. Like an 'I'm better than you and would have won, but for dice, and you must also agree and acknowledge this.' |
you are, with all due respect, entirely misinterpreting what i asked.
I asked about one event, and commenting "great dice" on that one event.
I'm not talking about a post-match comment, but in game, as part of an observation. nowhere do i say "I'm better than you and would have won, but for dice". You are putting words in my mouth, and I would expect more impartiality from a site admin. |
Nothing you've done on Fumbbl has ever been persuasive in framing your social contributions as anything other than you taking the piss or being comically obtuse. I don't expect more and thusly I am always content. |
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pythrr
Joined: Mar 07, 2006
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Aug 03, 2017 - 20:26 |
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Nothing you've done on Fumbbl has ever been persuasive in framing your social contributions |
yeah. running one of fumbbl's longest running Leagues (OBBA) for more than a decade does nothing in terms of a social contribution. thousands of hours of volunteer labour has no positive contribution at all.
right? |
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Thunderfrog
Joined: Jul 25, 2017
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Aug 03, 2017 - 20:33 |
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Also there's some bit of fair social contribution in knowingly playing the villain, so give him credit for that, if it's the case.
I don't know, haven't been here long enough.
But in the context of his original question he did nothing wrong. |
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mrt1212
Joined: Feb 26, 2013
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Aug 03, 2017 - 20:36 |
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I didn't even think OBBA existed anymore. Well if you think that makes up for the countless time you've spent
A. Provoking reactions from opponents and playing dumb each and every time
B. Using those reactions to threaten, even if playfully, that an Admin will be involved. Usually pretty swiftly as well. Like, that's your nuclear option and you go to it so readily and so easily at this point that one is lead to believe you're either full of it or the Admins are probably tired of your shenanigans as much as anyone else is.
C. Regularly starting self indulgent threads and blog posts related to your behavior that tells a ridiculously one sided story lacking context in which you deliberately provoke people.
I mean sure, OBBA is great I guess, why is that the only feather in your cap? Why do you think some league management lets you off the hook for all the other crap you bring to the table? |
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pythrr
Joined: Mar 07, 2006
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Aug 03, 2017 - 20:42 |
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| mrt1212 wrote: | I didn't even think OBBA existed anymore. Well if you think that makes up for the countless time you've spent
A. Provoking reactions from opponents and playing dumb each and every time
B. Using those reactions to threaten, even if playfully, that an Admin will be involved. Usually pretty swiftly as well. Like, that's your nuclear option and you go to it so readily and so easily at this point that one is lead to believe you're either full of it or the Admins are probably tired of your shenanigans as much as anyone else is.
C. Regularly starting self indulgent threads and blog posts related to your behavior that tells a ridiculously one sided story lacking context in which you deliberately provoke people.
I mean sure, OBBA is great I guess, why is that the only feather in your cap? Why do you think some league management lets you off the hook for all the other crap you bring to the table? |
thanks for the personal abuse and unfounded accusations.
what did i ever do to you? we've only ever had good interactions in game.
what was the last thing you did for the fumbbl community? |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Aug 03, 2017 - 20:44 |
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chill out everyone. People have bad days sometimes. I know I have. I know even the most sensible people you can think of on the site have.
I just hope that everyone strives to make things pleasant for each other as often as they can. |
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