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amazingprizzini



Joined: Dec 08, 2009

Post   Posted: Dec 19, 2018 - 22:31 Reply with quote Back to top

Just wondering what y'all's thoughts were on the best lineman after one general skill roll.

(I define best as best value for cost to team value.)

I tend to think it's Amazon Linewoman, as a blodger for 70k. But I'm curious if anyone has any other contenders.

(Chaos renegade Mauraders with mighty blow or claw? Chaos Beastman? Some wacky elf lineman?)
almic85



Joined: May 25, 2009

Post   Posted: Dec 19, 2018 - 23:23 Reply with quote Back to top

Well yes.

Of all the linemen only Amazon, Norse, Dwarf and Chaos Dwarf start with either block or dodge, which are considered the two best skills in the game.

The only other linemen that have starting skills are stunties, beastmen, and slann who will all usually want to take block or dodge (sometimes wrestle) as their first starting skill (except stunties who need a double for block and already have dodge).

As a team dwarf linemen with guard spam could be better than amazon linewoman spam with block, but individually the amazon with blodge will do better against every other type of lineman.

It also doesn't hurt that dodge would be a double on a zon linewoman so you are comparing a position with a normal and a double roll against other positions with either just a normal roll or 2 normal rolls at best.

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gamelsetlmatch



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Post   Posted: Dec 20, 2018 - 00:40 Reply with quote Back to top

Zombie with DP

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Klazam



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Post   Posted: Dec 20, 2018 - 01:39 Reply with quote Back to top

Snotlings with dp are better than zombies with dp. Foul anywhere!
D_Arquebus



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Dec 20, 2018 - 04:21 Reply with quote Back to top

Klazam wrote:
Snotlings with dp are better than zombies with dp. Foul anywhere!


DP is a double for a Snot/ Runt...

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Khaltan



Joined: Jun 22, 2011

Post   Posted: Dec 20, 2018 - 06:17 Reply with quote Back to top

gamelsetlmatch wrote:
Zombie with DP

Skeleton with DP has more range!
ClayInfinity



Joined: Aug 15, 2003

Post   Posted: Dec 20, 2018 - 06:36 Reply with quote Back to top

Dwarf with Guard... Block, Tackle, Guard... best in the business!
ben_awesome



Joined: May 11, 2016

Post   Posted: Dec 20, 2018 - 08:18 Reply with quote Back to top

Khaltan wrote:
gamelsetlmatch wrote:
Zombie with DP

Skeleton with DP has more range!


You can't throw a skeleton to get them into fouling range.
Grod



Joined: Sep 30, 2003

Post   Posted: Dec 20, 2018 - 08:28 Reply with quote Back to top

Chaos Pact Marauder + Leader. Following that I'd just be reiterating Almic85 -> Long Beard or Chaos Dwarf Blocker + Guard followed by Amazon linewoman + block or wrestle.

Special mention - Underworld Goblins + 2 heads.

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Kondor



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Post   Posted: Dec 21, 2018 - 12:42 Reply with quote Back to top

Long Beards are easily the best linemen in the game. It does not matter how many skills you give them. Rookies come with block/tackle/thick skull. The first three skills are Guard/Stand Firm/Mighty Blow. No doubles needed to create a monster. No matter the level, the dwarf will always be more skilled than linemen from other teams.
gamelsetlmatch



Joined: Mar 05, 2013

Post   Posted: Dec 21, 2018 - 12:55 Reply with quote Back to top

Dorfs arent that great, as a Team though..

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Post   Posted: Dec 21, 2018 - 13:26 Reply with quote Back to top

Skeletons > All !!
No, i'm not biaised....

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MattDakka



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Post   Posted: Dec 21, 2018 - 14:10 Reply with quote Back to top

Kondor wrote:
Long Beards are easily the best linemen in the game. It does not matter how many skills you give them. Rookies come with block/tackle/thick skull. The first three skills are Guard/Stand Firm/Mighty Blow. No doubles needed to create a monster. No matter the level, the dwarf will always be more skilled than linemen from other teams.

Chaos Dwarfs have more potential, same regular skill access as Long Beards but M access with double.
That makes a huge difference in the long run.
Arktoris



Joined: Feb 16, 2004

Post   Posted: Dec 21, 2018 - 16:15 Reply with quote Back to top

longbeards, mixture of guard and mightyblow

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Post   Posted: Dec 21, 2018 - 17:20 Reply with quote Back to top

MattDakka wrote:
Kondor wrote:
Long Beards are easily the best linemen in the game. It does not matter how many skills you give them. Rookies come with block/tackle/thick skull. The first three skills are Guard/Stand Firm/Mighty Blow. No doubles needed to create a monster. No matter the level, the dwarf will always be more skilled than linemen from other teams.

Chaos Dwarfs have more potential, same regular skill access as Long Beards but M access with double.
That makes a huge difference in the long run.
I'd argue that Chaos Dwarf blockers are a positional and not a lineman. Chaos Dwarves use Hobgoblins as linemen, which renders your argument moot.
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