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Zama



Joined: Aug 27, 2017

Post   Posted: Apr 02, 2020 - 09:27 Reply with quote Back to top

Hi, I want to ask you if the use of PO in blackbox requires the use of the reroll. It's a very useful skill but the use of the reroll "ruins" it.
Joost



Joined: Mar 17, 2014

Post   Posted: Apr 02, 2020 - 09:29 Reply with quote Back to top

It does require a reroll. I see no use for it because of that, maybe unless it works with pro.
MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Apr 02, 2020 - 12:32 Reply with quote Back to top

Pro can't be used to re-roll Piling On.
Only the rr can be used.

As an aside, I'd add that CRP old Piling On not requiring a rr ruined the game. Razz
ArthurWynne



Joined: Sep 23, 2015

Post   Posted: Apr 02, 2020 - 12:59 Reply with quote Back to top

Piling On is not useless, just very specialized. That's much better than the old status quo where it was as ubiquitous as Guard.
ClayInfinity



Joined: Aug 15, 2003

Post   Posted: Apr 02, 2020 - 13:23 Reply with quote Back to top

Cosimocalve01 wrote:
...It's a very useful skill ...


Why do I read that with the voice of Hannibal Lecter in my head...
JackassRampant



Joined: Feb 26, 2011

Post   Posted: Apr 02, 2020 - 16:03 Reply with quote Back to top

ArthurWynne wrote:
Piling On is not useless, just very specialized. That's much better than the old status quo where it was as ubiquitous as Guard.
+1. It's still a thing at very high TV.

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PaddyMick



Joined: Jan 03, 2012

Post   Posted: Apr 02, 2020 - 16:24 Reply with quote Back to top

Theory Bowl: what is the best team and initial build to be able to Pile On every turn?
-this question comes from Team Fantastic
Lorebass



Joined: Jun 25, 2010

Post   Posted: Apr 02, 2020 - 16:30
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PaddyMick wrote:
Theory Bowl: what is the best team and initial build to be able to Pile On every turn?
-this question comes from Team Fantastic


Vampires of course, they ALWAYS come with the extra RR. And after really thinking about it... why not go out with a bang on a failed blood lust!
MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Apr 02, 2020 - 17:29 Reply with quote Back to top

Why Vampires come with the extra RR?
If you are referring to Pro, the skill can't be used for Piling On
JackassRampant



Joined: Feb 26, 2011

Post   Posted: Apr 02, 2020 - 17:50 Reply with quote Back to top

Pro + PO is a thing, in that Pro gets you up to 20% more knockdowns. But you can't use Pro in place of the RR to Pile On directly. However, a team with a bunch of Pro will be more likely to have the RR available in the 2nd quarter, when PO is at its best.

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MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Apr 02, 2020 - 18:03 Reply with quote Back to top

Yes, altnough using Pro to rr no knock down result could generate Double Skulls, Frenzy is better if you are aiming to generate more knock downs.
Without the context of a specific race it's too much theorybowl.
Speaking of Vampires, they typically have Block, Dodge, Pro, Side Step, Tackle (assuming no stats/double).
No room for Piling On in the build.
Could be Block, Dodge, Pro, Tackle, Mighty Blow, Piling On, but doesn't sound good to me.
lautrehamon



Joined: Nov 18, 2017

Post   Posted: Apr 02, 2020 - 18:21 Reply with quote Back to top

Dwarfs, as they are bashy with cheap rerolls, could be a candidate for piling on (to reroll stun) ; same with human maybe. Chaos have the additionnal benefit of claws but more expensive RR.
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