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Vesto



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Jul 23, 2003 - 17:10 Reply with quote Back to top

Do you have to decide to use break tackle before making the dodge roll?

If it is so, the client handles it otherways.
Christer



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Post   Posted: Jul 23, 2003 - 17:14
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The break tackle skill will be used automatically if it is needed.

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Mr-Klipp



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Post   Posted: Jul 23, 2003 - 23:36 Reply with quote Back to top

Just an FYI, in the current rules, you may use any skill after the die roll.

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Apostol



Joined: Sep 22, 2003

Post   Posted: Dec 01, 2003 - 00:21 Reply with quote Back to top

Have any of you got this message?:

BREAK TACKLE skill NOT used. It would not help.

Most of turns I can use the Breack Tackle skill, but few of them I can't and I get that message. I was wondering if I'm the only one.
Michael_Warblade



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Dec 01, 2003 - 00:30 Reply with quote Back to top

That Message means either you Succeeded the dodge without needing break tackle (ie your Ag was good enough) or Even using Break Tackle you would still fail (ie a 1)

In other words it means exactly what it says Break Tackle would not help you in those circumstances and hence it was not used. If you succeeded the dodge and got that message you can use Break Tackle on the next dodge.
Apostol



Joined: Sep 22, 2003

Post 22 Posted: Dec 01, 2003 - 03:57 Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks Michael for your answer. But what happens to me is that some turns the target keeps being 4 all the time, the whole turn! No target 2 the whole turn! You know what I mean?

The target should be 2 once per turn, since my Bull Centaur (Bram) has Strength 4.

Here I made a copy-paste of what happens to me:

I try the first dodge:

BREAK TACKLE skill NOT used. It would not help.
DODGE FINAL RESULT: Bram
TARGET: 4 --- ROLL: 4 + 0 = 4

The target is 4, I do it. SO I didn't use yet Breack Tackle.


Next, I try the second dodge of the turn:

Bram slips past his opponent(s) unhindered.
DODGE BEFORE RE_ROLL: Bram knocked over trying to dodge.
TARGET: 4 --- ROLL: 1 + 0 = 1

As you see, the target keeps being 4 (instead of 2) and my bull kisses the ground.

Also happens when I play in the "Stand ALone" mode. It's really uncomfortable because when I play a game I doubt about dodging or not with the bull. Maybe in that turn Breack Tackle doesn't work!
oeuftete



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Dec 01, 2003 - 04:10 Reply with quote Back to top

Apostol, the target will always be based on the dodger's agility.

So for your AG2 bull dodging into the open, the target will always be 4. On a 4 or higher, you succesfully dodge with your agility, and you get the "BREAK TACKLE skill NOT used" message. Rolling a 1 will always fail. You're missing one key example... I'm betting every time you roll a 2 or 3 in this situation, it says that break tackle is used.
cataphract



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Dec 01, 2003 - 04:21 Reply with quote Back to top

Apostol wrote:
Thanks Michael for your answer. But what happens to me is that some turns the target keeps being 4 all the time, the whole turn! No target 2 the whole turn! You know what I mean?

The target should be 2 once per turn, since my Bull Centaur (Bram) has Strength 4.

Here I made a copy-paste of what happens to me:

I try the first dodge:

BREAK TACKLE skill NOT used. It would not help.
DODGE FINAL RESULT: Bram
TARGET: 4 --- ROLL: 4 + 0 = 4

The target is 4, I do it. SO I didn't use yet Breack Tackle.


Next, I try the second dodge of the turn:

Bram slips past his opponent(s) unhindered.
DODGE BEFORE RE_ROLL: Bram knocked over trying to dodge.
TARGET: 4 --- ROLL: 1 + 0 = 1

As you see, the target keeps being 4 (instead of 2) and my bull kisses the ground.

Also happens when I play in the "Stand ALone" mode. It's really uncomfortable because when I play a game I doubt about dodging or not with the bull. Maybe in that turn Breack Tackle doesn't work!


you rolled a 1, a 1 would fail regardless of whether you used break tackle or not so it wasn''t used. roll a 2 or 3 and irt'll use break tackle

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Pardus



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Post   Posted: Dec 01, 2003 - 04:23 Reply with quote Back to top

oeuftete, don't bother, if he doesn't get it already, he never will.
Apostol



Joined: Sep 22, 2003

Post 12 Posted: Dec 01, 2003 - 06:08 Reply with quote Back to top

Pardus, just let you know that thanks to oeuftete and the others I finally got it.

I thought that the target would be always 2, until the moment I used the skill. On that moment the target would be 4. That`s why I was confused.

As you say, the target stated will depend on whether I use Breack Tackle or not. So if I dodge without needing the skill or I roll a 1, the target will be always 4.

Conclusion: problem solved. Thanks again. I will let you know if I have more doubts!


Last edited by Apostol on Dec 01, 2003 - 07:04; edited 2 times in total
Wombats



Joined: Oct 31, 2003

Post   Posted: Dec 01, 2003 - 06:31 Reply with quote Back to top

So has anyone else failed on a 2 or 3 in this situation?

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Apostol



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Post   Posted: Dec 01, 2003 - 06:37 Reply with quote Back to top

Wombats, just after sending my last post (the one you read), I kept experimenting with my bull and I finally got the answer.

That's why I edited the post. Wink
Wombats



Joined: Oct 31, 2003

Post   Posted: Dec 01, 2003 - 07:09 Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah I thought the same as the rest of them - Just thought I'd give you the benefit of the doubt.

Obviously a lapse of judgement on my part Razz

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Apostol



Joined: Sep 22, 2003

Post   Posted: Dec 01, 2003 - 07:58 Reply with quote Back to top

Hahaha! Yeah, probably I would deserve it. In my defense, just saying that 3 of my opponents did not give me the correct answer. One of them told me that Breach Tackle doesn't work if you're dodging a player with your same strength Shocked, and the other ones had no idea!

Wombats, you're lucky I have exams next week, otherwise I would smash your Norses right now. Laughing We have similar rates so we could have a game. When I'm done I will let you know.
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