cthol
Joined: Nov 10, 2003
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May 10, 2009 - 12:42 |
 
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So, i just played this game, during which I had the opportunity to equalise in turn 8. I could have simply walked over the line, no dice rolling. Instead I handed off to another player in order to get a skill (AG3, reroll available). He dropped the ball. I went on to draw in the second half, but I'm kicking myself for not taking the TD in the 1st half.
Was the AG3 handoff too risky? Would you have done the same? What are people's priorities for scoring / skilling? |
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Ravenmore
Joined: Sep 10, 2008
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May 10, 2009 - 12:43 |
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Shephard
Joined: Nov 01, 2008
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May 10, 2009 - 12:54 |
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Touchdown with the guy receiving the hand off gives SPP.
It's a question of priorities. Do you want SPP on specific guys, or do you want to guarantee victory? Anything involving dice rolling is a risk, no matter what the odds. I only force SPP on specific players if the game outcome is already basically decided (one way or the other), or I have time and good position to recover from a screw up. |
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cthol
Joined: Nov 10, 2003
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May 10, 2009 - 13:00 |
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lol, no, the handoff doesn't, maybe that wasn't clear. I wanted the TD spps to go to a guy who was 2 spps away from a skill, rather than a guy who had just got one; I can't remember but I think it was 14 spps versus 16 spps.
I try to be conscious of who is scoring, passing etc so as to spread the spps around. The team has 232 spps spread over 16 players, from 0 to 36, with a total of 20 skills, which works out at 18 spps per skill. Has anyone else averaged spps like this? I think there might be some interesting statistical analysis to be done, but I don't have the brain electricity to spare right now  |
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CircularLogic
Joined: Aug 22, 2003
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May 10, 2009 - 13:22 |
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Usually I setup my plays, that the ball is in hands of the intended scorer in T7. If for whatever reasons this isn`t possible, then I might accept a 2+ with RR, but probably I`d just score. If I score chances are, that i can get within the same match into a position where I can risk a handoff because the game is already decided. |
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Mithrilpoint
Joined: Mar 16, 2004
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May 10, 2009 - 13:29 |
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It depends on the scoreboard for me. If the score is important (and most TD's are) i wont do anything but score as my first action, no blocks, handpffs or the like. I've seen doubleskull rr doubleskull too many times to play the spp game |
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Purplegoo
Joined: Mar 23, 2006
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May 10, 2009 - 13:34 |
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I'm a munchkin.
I'dve fallen over the line, sod the handoff.  |
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Grod
Joined: Sep 30, 2003
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May 10, 2009 - 13:40 |
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I play conservatively, so I almost never make such hand-offs or passes. I regard anything less than a 2 dice re-rollable block (preferably with block skill) as too risky, but if team building is your thing, then an 8/9 hand-off may be ok, just not for me. |
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CircularLogic
Joined: Aug 22, 2003
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May 10, 2009 - 14:11 |
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For blocking it`s usually a risk/reward analysis. A casualty on a 2d block is 1/120 (AV9 blodge) or better. A rerollable 2dblock with block at hand has a 1/1296 chance to fail. So your chance for an additional gain is at least 10 times as high as the chance for a loss. Now if I ask myself, would I give up a TD for 10 cas on blodging orcs? - hell yeah, most of the times.
As blocks without reroll or with reroll but without block fail 1/36 and 1/81 times respectively, the win/reward isn`t in my favor. So I don`t do it. And if I need that TD to advance in the tourney, I will score no matter what. |
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sk8bcn
Joined: Apr 13, 2004
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May 10, 2009 - 14:15 |
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| cthol wrote: | So, i just played this game, during which I had the opportunity to equalise in turn 8. I could have simply walked over the line, no dice rolling. Instead I handed off to another player in order to get a skill (AG3, reroll available). He dropped the ball. I went on to draw in the second half, but I'm kicking myself for not taking the TD in the 1st half.
Was the AG3 handoff too risky? Would you have done the same? What are people's priorities for scoring / skilling? |
I'd never done this. Win>>experience.
And here it was a 1/9 to fail. I wouldn't have tried a 1/36 roll. |
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Ironik
Joined: Jun 28, 2004
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May 10, 2009 - 14:17 |
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Knowing Nuffle, Grod pattern of thought is not that wrong. If it were pure mathematics...
Why Nuffle hates Elves? |
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spelledaren
Joined: Mar 06, 2004
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May 10, 2009 - 14:18 |
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I always play to win, so wouldnt have made that hand off. Turn 7 with 2 rerolls left and plenty of room , sure. |
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RC
Joined: Sep 22, 2005
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May 10, 2009 - 14:51 |
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I would have made it and failed it 50% of the time.. in turn 8 the probability is just that. I you where down 2-0 and it was a concelation score then I would also made the handoff and it would have worked 90%of the time. |
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koadah
Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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May 10, 2009 - 15:00 |
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PhrollikK
Joined: Nov 04, 2006
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May 10, 2009 - 15:15 |
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There is one basic rule: Always score if the opportunity arises. Sure you might want to stall at one time or another but giving away a guaranteed TD and then drawing or even losing is as stupid substitute for 3 SPP. I think everyone is guilty of this though |
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