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Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: Apr 24, 2014 - 19:51 Reply with quote Back to top

I would have only been able to afford an app for the first time after that game because of cas. I know my record was reasonably good but it is the principle of it. I want to play blood bowl. Games like that are not bloodbowl. It's quite clear. I played dwarves before with that team too but it was a proper team with all the positionals so it was fun for me though still very tough. I don't care about the loss or taking cas etc.. I just want to play the game how it's meant to be played. This is not how the game was designed to be played. Good luck with arr it was fun until that game. Shame one coach of min maxer nonsense has put me off the division until the next time a change is made. If you don't think that is min maxing then sorry but you are clueless. Check a coaches teams and their usual win draw loss ratio then look at the min max team, it's clear as day. As I said it's far from the worst you see but it's still not a game I want to be part of. Its the exact same reason I quit the last 2 times as well. Go back far enough and you will see I raised the first anti min max forum thread long ago - such is my hate for this stupid gaming of tv.

Also there were only 11 men not 12

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koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Post   Posted: Apr 24, 2014 - 20:59 Reply with quote Back to top

Ah, OK. I didn't realise that one was a loner.

Even so, I think that your expectations were unrealistic.

TV is inaccurate and TS may be better but would still wouldn't be perfect. You would also need to apply inducements by the TS for it to be any real use and the 'officialists' would hate that.

Complaining because people do not run with all positionals is just silly. So that is why you have no apoth? Shocked
Well, that is your style. Personally I prefer the apoth. Does buying an apoth instead of a new catcher make me a min/maxer too?

As you know I will whine about CPOMBers & mix/maxers more than most but I think you are at the extreme end. I am surprised that you ever thought that Box could work for you.

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dynamo380



Joined: Apr 05, 2009

Post   Posted: Apr 25, 2014 - 00:48 Reply with quote Back to top

The Underville Strayz just played their 200th game, which I think now makes them the oldest active Underworld team in the Box division. It was a tough game against Kenthis' MurderBy Numbers and with me missing both my bashers I got 940k in inducements!

So far this season we've posted a 3/1/2 record and hopefully I'll be able to get enough games in over the next few days to finish the sprint in time.

Edit: actually, just realised the season finished at the end of may so plenty of time.
dynamo380



Joined: Apr 05, 2009

Post   Posted: Apr 25, 2014 - 01:19 Reply with quote Back to top

While I tend to agree with Garions views about min maxing in blood bowl... I cant help but wonder is the Box really that bad?

I've read anumber of posts/blogs recently critising the box for its min maxers and yet its something I cant say i've ever really experienced despite nearly solely playing in the Box division for a long while now. Maybe i've just been lucky or maybe its the tv my teams tend to play or perhaps i just cant remember (perfectly feasible as i am blonde) - either way it does make me wonder how bad the min max problem actually is.

It would be a real shame to see the box die especially because of something like this, personally its my prefered division over ranked. Diversity seems to be on the increase, the coaches generally speaking have been friendleir to play against (there are exceptions mind) and while there are cpomb teams of death rarely do i go into a game thinking that im just there to make up the numbers. I've just found the whole environment so far more enjoyable and less frustrating than the moaning, bitching and cherry picking that seems so rife in ranked.
mrt1212



Joined: Feb 26, 2013

Post   Posted: Apr 25, 2014 - 02:38 Reply with quote Back to top

dynamo380 wrote:
While I tend to agree with Garions views about min maxing in blood bowl... I cant help but wonder is the Box really that bad?

I've read anumber of posts/blogs recently critising the box for its min maxers and yet its something I cant say i've ever really experienced despite nearly solely playing in the Box division for a long while now. Maybe i've just been lucky or maybe its the tv my teams tend to play or perhaps i just cant remember (perfectly feasible as i am blonde) - either way it does make me wonder how bad the min max problem actually is.

It would be a real shame to see the box die especially because of something like this, personally its my prefered division over ranked. Diversity seems to be on the increase, the coaches generally speaking have been friendleir to play against (there are exceptions mind) and while there are cpomb teams of death rarely do i go into a game thinking that im just there to make up the numbers. I've just found the whole environment so far more enjoyable and less frustrating than the moaning, bitching and cherry picking that seems so rife in ranked.


There are a few specific coaches who play this way but they aren't all over the place. My complaint has mostly been that there's too much of the same thing to make it as enjoyable as it could be. I dont notice elven or amazon min maxers or really care. Skaven players with their natural ottds are going to do what they're going to do.
keggiemckill



Joined: Oct 07, 2004

Post   Posted: Apr 25, 2014 - 03:55 Reply with quote Back to top

I have had a h-AAR-d time getting box games lately. Don't worry I will keep trying.

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mrt1212



Joined: Feb 26, 2013

Post   Posted: Apr 25, 2014 - 04:07 Reply with quote Back to top

you and me against the world keggie!
koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Post   Posted: Apr 25, 2014 - 09:19 Reply with quote Back to top

dynamo380 wrote:
While I tend to agree with Garions views about min maxing in blood bowl... I cant help but wonder is the Box really that bad?

I've read anumber of posts/blogs recently critising the box for its min maxers and yet its something I cant say i've ever really experienced despite nearly solely playing in the Box division for a long while now. Maybe i've just been lucky or maybe its the tv my teams tend to play or perhaps i just cant remember (perfectly feasible as i am blonde) - either way it does make me wonder how bad the min max problem actually is.


That is a lot of Amazon games you have there. Maybe you are a min/maxer. Twisted Evil

I don't think that you do really agree with Garion. Not if you have really played 100s of games and don't remember playing a min maxer.

If you look at Garion's 'final straw' game, he quits and rants about min/maxers. Most people would grumble "oh no not dwarves again" and moan about "too many bashers in the Box".

The vast majority of teams in the Box are min/maxers. It is just a matter of extent. People have the choice of picking stronger teams or weaker ones. If the choice is there people are going to take it.

I do recall running into min/maxers but I don't recall any of them being 'bad games'.

It seemed to me that most of them were not great coaches so the games were pretty even.
Though I suppose good coaches often tend to have good teams.

As I mentioned elsewhere, when I look at the games list, Box coaches seem to be mostly Legends, Super Stars & Stars. I suspect that being able to min/max was the only thing that gave some coaches a chance.

So, the scheduler change means that things are harder for weaker coaches. It is is also harder for longer lived teams to avoid the worst of the big bashers via TV management.

All in all the Box has become a more competitive environment at the expense of the more casual coach.
Competitive if you can get a game that is. Wink

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dynamo380



Joined: Apr 05, 2009

Post   Posted: Apr 26, 2014 - 19:53 Reply with quote Back to top

koadah wrote:

That is a lot of Amazon games you have there. Maybe you are a min/maxer. Twisted Evil


If that team is min/maxed then i'm doing it wrong it would seem Crying or Very sad
koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Post   Posted: Apr 26, 2014 - 21:21 Reply with quote Back to top

dynamo380 wrote:
koadah wrote:

That is a lot of Amazon games you have there. Maybe you are a min/maxer. Twisted Evil


If that team is min/maxed then i'm doing it wrong it would seem Crying or Very sad


Heh, heh. Some would say that using Zons at all is a heinous crime.

That team has a better record than most of your other teams. Except (evil) lizards. That proves you are a witch!

Burn witch!!!

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happygrue



Joined: Oct 15, 2010

Post   Posted: Apr 30, 2014 - 04:51 Reply with quote Back to top

Mid season update:

It's vamps/slann/vamps in the 1/2/3 spots with gobbos holding the top stunty spot at the moment with one month left to go! Check the leaderboard for full standings.

The last BBB of each month is ARRs! Finished your sprint? Or just looking for a break in the action? Activate ARR teams in Wednesday's BBB and conquer through sheer numbARRs!

You could be the next

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Not sure which race to try next? Try them all! If you finish a sprint with each race you could earn yourself a set of FUMBBL dice! Details on the group page.

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happygrue



Joined: Oct 15, 2010

Post   Posted: Apr 30, 2014 - 16:46 Reply with quote Back to top

7 applied to the brawl already, get yARRself in there!

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koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Post   Posted: May 01, 2014 - 00:07 Reply with quote Back to top

Daylight robbery!

It took two outrageous smash & grab raids but two wins on the spin means the Grrls are finally back to an even record overall!

2/2/1 is currently enough to leave us 3rd im ARR Elf. We'll have to up our work rate a fair bit to catch the leaders.

Pizzamogul looks like the favourite now for ARR Elf as Garion has dropped out. 6th in the overall standings too.

Come on you Pro Elf coaches. We gotta finish above those snooty High Elves! Mr. Green

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happygrue



Joined: Oct 15, 2010

Post   Posted: May 01, 2014 - 04:36 Reply with quote Back to top

Those snooty High Elves are being left high and dry right now. Wink

In brawl news: Three brawls were launched today. Out of 24 teams we had 16 of them! ARR!

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cdassak



Joined: Oct 23, 2013

Post   Posted: May 05, 2014 - 13:13 Reply with quote Back to top

They call us LoosARRs? No more!

My Undrworld team WARRpstoned completed the first ever ARRdefeated ARR sprint Smile

https://fumbbl.com/p/team?team_id=763816

So I came up with the very original idea to have a ARR badge for ARRbeaten sprints Razz

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