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argos_72



Joined: Mar 02, 2007

Post 5 Posted: Mar 13, 2021 - 00:16 Reply with quote Back to top

I have some questions on BB2020 pre-game sequence in particular the Inducements phase .

at page 38 of the rulebook is written (sorry to quote all the part of the rule )

4. INDUCEMENTS
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[...]each team can spend gold pieces from their Treasury , from Petty Cash or from both , to purchase Inducements, [...]
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PETTY CASH
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If one team has lower CTV (including the value of any Journeymen players), it is given 'petty cash' to spend on Inducements. The amount of petty cash given is exactly equal to the difference in CTV between the two team. Petty cash cannot be kept; it must be spent on Inducements for the game ahead. Any gold pieces not spent are lost

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TREASURY
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Both team are free to spend gold pieces from their Treasury to purchase Inducements. If one of the teams has been given petty cash, gold pieces from its Treasury CAN BE ADDED to this. Gold pieces in this way are immediatly deducted from the Treasuryt
[...]

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THE UNDERDOG
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Once finishing purchasing the inducements you should recalculate your CTV, The lower CTV team is referred as underdog [...]

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Now some questions
1) there is no mention on who is starting the first. Today the higher CTV team start deciding first if to put money into the petty cash or not. So first difference I see is that now in BB2020 this choiche happen the same time Confused

2) the Petty cash + Treasure in BB2020 can be ADDED Exclamation Question
Today I have impression the rule is different
Example
Team A: CTV 1200
Team B:; CTV 1220
Team B decide to put nothing in the Petty Cash.
Team A is underdog and receive petty cash of +20K. Today if you want to purchase a Boomer (cost of 60k) you need to add THE TOTALITY of the 60K from your Treasury to the petty cash because 20k is not sufficient to purchase a 60k boomer. And you cannot only add 40k from your treasury because this is not added with the 20k of the Petty Cash.
In BB2020 seems different: Petty Cash sum the amount of the Treasury you decide to put into.

3) There is no any mention in BB2020 that if the Greater CTV add money in the petty cash this will generate a bigger TV gap for the other and supplementary money to spend
example like before
Team A: CTV 1200
Team B: CTV 1220

Team B: start and decide to put 50k from Treasury into Petty cash to purchase a babe

Today this will give to the Team A supplementary money to spend in petty cash = 20k + 50k so it can purchase Boomer without take anythging from the Treasury

4) ALso in opposite
Today
Team A: CTV 1200
Team B:; CTV 1220
Team B decide to put nothing in Petty Cash
Team A decide to put 70k in petty cash and purchase a Boomer
Team B will have a 50k bonus to spend (today I do not find anything in BB2020 mentining this)

To be honest I am not very sure on point 3 and 4.

Thank a lot in advance to anybody who would like to spend some time to clarify!
cheers!
Webbe



Joined: Aug 13, 2003

Post   Posted: Mar 13, 2021 - 04:15 Reply with quote Back to top

You only get petty cash from the original CTV difference. Both teams can spend treasury cash afterwards without giving the opposing team any further petty cash.
After all inducements you still check CTV again and the underdog get a prayer roll per 50k they are underdog.
Foad



Joined: Sep 02, 2007

Post   Posted: Mar 13, 2021 - 09:02 Reply with quote Back to top

Oh no... Not again...

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AzraelEVA



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Post   Posted: Mar 13, 2021 - 14:10 Reply with quote Back to top

1.) Correct both teams decide after calculating petty cash how much they add and what to purchase at the same time without telling the other. once they are finished they tell each other their purchases and we calculate who the underdog is.

2.) Team A only needs to add 40k

3.)No Team A doesn't get additional Money and cannot buy Boomer. They are now the underdog and may roll on the prayers to Nuffl Table once for every 50k difference

4.) No Team B doesn't get to spend extra 50k but they are allowed to roll on the prayers to Nuffl Table.
argos_72



Joined: Mar 02, 2007

Post   Posted: Mar 13, 2021 - 20:27 Reply with quote Back to top

AzraelEVA wrote:
1.) Correct both teams decide after calculating petty cash how much they add and what to purchase at the same time without telling the other. once they are finished they tell each other their purchases and we calculate who the underdog is.

2.) Team A only needs to add 40k



thank you a lot for the clarification!
Lyracian



Joined: Oct 29, 2015

Post   Posted: Mar 13, 2021 - 21:38 Reply with quote Back to top

AzraelEVA wrote:
1.) Correct both teams decide after calculating petty cash how much they add and what to purchase at the same time without telling the other. once they are finished they tell each other their purchases and we calculate who the underdog is.

While that might be the intend I cannot see anything in the rule book that actually supports this interpretation?
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