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Who are the biggest winners for this edition (prediction)?
Amazons
23%
 23%  [ 52 ]
Necromantic
9%
 9%  [ 21 ]
Orc
4%
 4%  [ 9 ]
OWA
43%
 43%  [ 98 ]
Undead
0%
 0%  [ 1 ]
Underworld
1%
 1%  [ 3 ]
Wood Elf
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Imperial Nobility
4%
 4%  [ 9 ]
Nurgle
8%
 8%  [ 19 ]
Goblin
3%
 3%  [ 7 ]
Black Orc
1%
 1%  [ 3 ]
Other
1%
 1%  [ 3 ]
Total Votes : 225


moph



Joined: Sep 16, 2020

Post   Posted: Nov 14, 2025 - 18:11 Reply with quote Back to top

High Elves got better PA stats. Missing in the list above.
mrt1212



Joined: Feb 26, 2013

Post   Posted: Nov 14, 2025 - 21:45 Reply with quote Back to top

I do gotta chuckle at Underworld piggybacking the Skaven changes, but such is life. Like I said in the other thread, it seems like Skaven can continue to swing pretty well at lower TVs but it's just kind of a potential punch for developed high TV leagues.

I would definitely fish for the +AG on one SV though if they're going to get something of a sacker-role start, but still need that guarded-hunter-killer type I guess.
Grod



Joined: Sep 30, 2003

Post   Posted: Nov 15, 2025 - 01:43 Reply with quote Back to top

Dwarf buff: primary access of linemen to D skills (which is pretty relevant given bribery and corruption). Break tackle is now +3 for S5 or higher, a buff for the roller.

Also, OWA do have easy DP access (on their Dwarf blockers, for what it's worth).

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Vicen



Joined: Jan 05, 2023

Post   Posted: Nov 15, 2025 - 04:51 Reply with quote Back to top

Missing:
Black Orcs and Khorne
Buffs:
- may secure the ball 2+ with S4 AG4+
Owiebowee



Joined: Dec 24, 2019

Post   Posted: Nov 15, 2025 - 06:42 Reply with quote Back to top

0+ dodging on a Vampire Blitzer with the new break tackle seems like a nice option too.
PrivateNiCeGuY



Joined: Oct 30, 2018

Post   Posted: Nov 15, 2025 - 19:56 Reply with quote Back to top

Owiebowee wrote:
0+ dodging on a Vampire Blitzer with the new break tackle seems like a nice option too.


This is what I was looking if someone said!

Break Tackle then Stripp ball and you probably got the best cage diver in the game after only 2 skills!

Sure the 1+ ag "bugg" that exist is better but if that is fixed the Vamp BLitzer diver is a scary thing
Grod



Joined: Sep 30, 2003

Post   Posted: Nov 15, 2025 - 22:45 Reply with quote Back to top

Back to Dwarfs - the death roller can also carry the ball now. With MA5 and break tackle (2+ dodge), he's an interesting player to give the ball to on a touchback.

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MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Nov 15, 2025 - 23:21 Reply with quote Back to top

Grod wrote:
Back to Dwarfs - the death roller can also carry the ball now. With MA5 and break tackle (2+ dodge), he's an interesting player to give the ball to on a touchback.

Looks like a great idea for interesting games. Razz
Flea94



Joined: May 06, 2022

Post   Posted: Nov 16, 2025 - 02:26 Reply with quote Back to top

Grod wrote:
Back to Dwarfs - the death roller can also carry the ball now. With MA5 and break tackle (2+ dodge), he's an interesting player to give the ball to on a touchback.


He's got No ball tho
Grod



Joined: Sep 30, 2003

Post   Posted: Nov 16, 2025 - 03:25 Reply with quote Back to top

Flea94 wrote:
Grod wrote:
Back to Dwarfs - the death roller can also carry the ball now. With MA5 and break tackle (2+ dodge), he's an interesting player to give the ball to on a touchback.


He's got No ball tho


Ah sorry my bad.

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EastCoast



Joined: Feb 14, 2010

Post   Posted: Nov 16, 2025 - 17:25 Reply with quote Back to top

mrt1212 wrote:

I would definitely fish for the +AG on one SV though if they're going to get something of a sacker-role start, but still need that guarded-hunter-killer type I guess.


Hypothetically speaking if you miss out on the 3/8 to get AG+ do you take the +MA to make him MA 9 or do you take the +AV for only 10K TV and you've got one really rugged Blitzer, or do you take a Double Skill instead?
MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Nov 16, 2025 - 17:28 Reply with quote Back to top

I would take Claw on the Skaven Blitzer.
EastCoast



Joined: Feb 14, 2010

Post   Posted: Nov 16, 2025 - 18:21 Reply with quote Back to top

MattDakka wrote:
I would take Claw on the Skaven Blitzer.
The ol' bucktoothed Werewolf route? Yeah, I could see that.
Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: Nov 17, 2025 - 10:26 Reply with quote Back to top

updated the original post with the missing bits that you have fedback Smile

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Vicen



Joined: Jan 05, 2023

Post   Posted: Nov 17, 2025 - 13:43 Reply with quote Back to top

Secure the ball is also a huge buff for the Tomb Kings of Khemri. Probably those who benefit the most from it.

In contrast, Norse and Necro are the only teams with "unsteady" linemen. This makes their ball carriers precious (with a target on their back).

For Nurgle (although their Rotters can secure the ball), the decrease in the number of Pestigors affects them much more than other Chaos Team. Because their Bloater S4 cannot carry the ball.
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