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Best thing about 2025 edition?
Removal of Loner from Goblin Trolls
36%
 36%  [ 37 ]
Allowing Chainsaws to do Stunty Dodges
20%
 20%  [ 21 ]
Taunt on the Ooligan and they're cheaper
5%
 5%  [ 6 ]
Something not Goblin related...
37%
 37%  [ 38 ]
Total Votes : 102


Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: Nov 17, 2025 - 10:31 Reply with quote Back to top

EastCoast wrote:
I don't find the match play tiers to be egregious.


Having snotlings in tier 4 is

But yeah, I'm sure these GW ones will widely be ignored and NAF will make their own comp I'm sure...

anyway, this thread is for Tier Predictions for Fumbbl Blackbox, not Match Play/Res Smile

I'd love to hear how everyone thinks the tiers will look... tiers 1 to 4, with optional tier 0 also called S tier i.e. >55%

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EastCoast



Joined: Feb 14, 2010

Post   Posted: Nov 17, 2025 - 17:02 Reply with quote Back to top

Garion wrote:

I'd love to hear how everyone thinks the tiers will look... tiers 1 to 4, with optional tier 0 also called S tier i.e. >55%


Are we operating under the assumption that *all* Star Players will be available to the teams?

If so, I'm not sure yet there will be a tier 0. Amazons look ripe for it, but Wrestle is about to become a lot more popular because it is cheaper and it negates Steady Footing. Now Amazons too will have to start going Wrodge spam over Blodge spam, but with only 6 Movement that caps them a bit.

Necromantic are a fantastic foundation but they were designed around primary access to the 4 skills that are now elite. A Blodge Wolf is awesome, but now costs 180TV. You still want your 4 Guard, but now that team is getting pricey. I think that creates a ceiling on them.

Shambling Undead are kind of in the same boat as Necro, but they don't need those elite skills quite as much because their Wights are so good with Tackle and ST 5 no negatrait big guys packing Mighty Blow is the gift that has been giving for about 3 decades. Blodge Ghouls, A couple of Guards, maybe Mighty Blow on a Wight. I just don't think their ceiling goes as high as Necros.

So for right now, I'm tentatively saying I don't think there will be a league/box tier 0.
Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: Nov 17, 2025 - 18:08 Reply with quote Back to top

EastCoast wrote:

So for right now, I'm tentatively saying I don't think there will be a league/box tier 0.


that's a bold prediction.. that means Zons and norse would need to drop 5 or 6%

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sebco



Joined: Feb 14, 2005

Post   Posted: Nov 17, 2025 - 18:47 Reply with quote Back to top

In my opinion, these 2 rosters (zons and norses) would need more expensive lineplayers. Let's say 55k instead of 50k.

Zons were already the best team in BB 2020 and I fear BB 2025 strengthens that. Norses were excellent at low TV but I would say that was less true at middle / high TV. That said, I suspect Elite skills at +10k will help them. They already have Block. And less Mighty Blow on the pitch is good news for them.

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MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Nov 17, 2025 - 18:56 Reply with quote Back to top

sebco wrote:
In my opinion, these 2 rosters (zons and norses) would need more expensive lineplayers. Let's say 55k instead of 50k.

I think that too.
badger89



Joined: Jun 03, 2014

Post   Posted: Nov 17, 2025 - 20:32 Reply with quote Back to top

Taking LONER off goblin trolls may be a ploy to get people to play then more haha

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Zelash



Joined: Apr 10, 2021

Post   Posted: Nov 19, 2025 - 04:12 Reply with quote Back to top

All Hail the Amazon Jaguar learned Breaktackle with +ST dodging into a cage on a 3+.
110k +20k +60k = grand total 190k teamvalue, real value that only get better later.
Vicen



Joined: Jan 05, 2023

Post   Posted: Nov 30, 2025 - 13:31 Reply with quote Back to top

At the moment, with the AG1+ exploit bug, elf, vampire and skaven teams have a considerable advantage.


Last edited by Vicen on Nov 30, 2025; edited 1 time in total
MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Nov 30, 2025 - 13:41 Reply with quote Back to top

A cage can be screened, though. If you add some dodges to the Break Tackle sequence it could get used before actually dodging into the cage.
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