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Who are the biggest winners for this edition (prediction)?
Amazons
23%
 23%  [ 56 ]
Necromantic
8%
 8%  [ 21 ]
Orc
3%
 3%  [ 9 ]
OWA
43%
 43%  [ 105 ]
Undead
0%
 0%  [ 1 ]
Underworld
1%
 1%  [ 3 ]
Wood Elf
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Imperial Nobility
3%
 3%  [ 9 ]
Nurgle
8%
 8%  [ 20 ]
Goblin
3%
 3%  [ 8 ]
Black Orc
1%
 1%  [ 4 ]
Other
1%
 1%  [ 4 ]
Total Votes : 240


Vicen



Joined: Jan 05, 2023
Post   Posted: Dec 03, 2025 - 20:54 Reply with quote Back to top
The renegade orc does not have access to S. That would have made him a decent player, in addition to the dark elf.
Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009
Post   Posted: Dec 04, 2025 - 10:44 Reply with quote Back to top
xKKDvaKx wrote:
Zelmor wrote:
xKKDvaKx wrote:
In general BB is about a ball and not about bombs xD. But i think in the new rules you can dump off bombs


No you cannot. Maybe read the book first.

Thanks for be an idiot an do that constructive answer
I readed it its the reason i have the doubt. As you should know (perhaps you need more brain to know it) some time the rule not very clear
Reading bombardier skill and dump off skill i dont see why i shouldnt be able to throw a bomb. If give and go works with bombardier (at least in previous rules and i think with that onetoo) why dump off no reading the book?


I've explained why you can't already

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Dump off allows the player being hit to specifically do a Quick Pass only

Bombardier requires the player HAS to declare a Throw Bomb Special Action to do so.

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xKKDvaKx



Joined: Jun 12, 2025
Post   Posted: Dec 04, 2025 - 11:06 Reply with quote Back to top
As i said i still have the doubt. Perhaps im wrong but i think is a logical doubt. Do a pass action need too be declared too. Why with dump off you can declare a pass action but cant declare a throw bomb special action? I can do a quick pass with bombardier, and that skill descrptiom say it works equal the pass action, and any skill or trais of pass can be used except on the ball, so i ask it again. In your theory you cant give and go with bombs? Why they in the rules only say you cant use on the ball specifically, but you are convinced that cant use dump off?
Idk if you are the master here and if your word is the law. I just tryin to know how new rules works, and just asking what i think, in any case we will se in FAQ
xKKDvaKx



Joined: Jun 12, 2025
Post   Posted: Dec 04, 2025 - 11:18 Reply with quote Back to top
Dump off skill dont say you have to declare a pass action, just do a quick pass, and that can be done by bomber.
But as i said we will see in FAQ but is good talk and change opinions with a dogmatic comunity
Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009
Post   Posted: Dec 04, 2025 - 12:35 Reply with quote Back to top
xKKDvaKx wrote:
Dump off skill dont say you have to declare a pass action, just do a quick pass, and that can be done by bomber.
But as i said we will see in FAQ but is good talk and change opinions with a dogmatic comunity


Yes your quick pass point is correct. But the bit I am pointing to is that for bombardier to work you have to declare a Throw bomb special action... Which you cannot do with dump off, because Dump off only allows for a quick pass..., there is no time for special action declaration.

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MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007
Post   Posted: Dec 04, 2025 - 12:37 Reply with quote Back to top
Garion wrote:
Yes your quick pass point is correct. But the bit I am pointing to is that for bombardier to work you have to declare a Throw bomb special action... Which you cannot do with dump off, because Dump off only allows for a quick pass..., there is no time for special action declaration.

Yes, lighting the fuse requires some time, it's realistic.
xKKDvaKx



Joined: Jun 12, 2025
Post   Posted: Dec 04, 2025 - 13:03 Reply with quote Back to top
I understand your point of view, and i think the rule is a bit confuse. In my point for a pass action you have to declare the pass first too (pag. 50). I mean both, pass and special action bombardiers works in the same way about need to be declared, and bombardier as his description says,works exactly in the same way as a pass action and the only pass skill that can not be used is on the ball. Plus the dump off skill dont talk about pass action exclusively i think on purpose, but thanks, i like to can change opinions about how to interpretate some rules.

About the fuse its nice the idea, but that new boms seems to not have timer, only explodes on contact with the floor! new goblin invention xD


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MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007
Post   Posted: Dec 04, 2025 - 13:13 Reply with quote Back to top
The 3rd edition Bomma Dribblesnot's miniature had the fuse on the bomb.
I referred to that. Smile


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xKKDvaKx



Joined: Jun 12, 2025
Post   Posted: Dec 04, 2025 - 13:19 Reply with quote Back to top
Bomber Driblesnot its unique and so much traditional! He still like to use old model of bombs. Its the reason he has not dump off and his special ability can explode faster his bomb Laughing
Loon



Joined: Aug 14, 2024
Post   Posted: Dec 06, 2025 - 04:20 Reply with quote Back to top
They should have made bombardier interact with being knocked down like ball and chain and the saw; if you knock him down the bombs explode in that square with full area effect. I can imagine some fun with kamikaze fungus flingas running into a cage.
Tomay



Joined: Apr 26, 2008
Post   Posted: Dec 08, 2025 - 02:47 Reply with quote Back to top
I'm worried about the lack of casualties in general. Can see lots of stat farming players surrounded by rookies again.

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Jayward



Joined: Dec 22, 2020
Post   Posted: Dec 08, 2025 - 09:56 Reply with quote Back to top
Oh, absolutely. Making good skills cost more, making stats cost less, shortening the redraft period, and allowing MVP allocation all lean towards min-maxing a legend or two
MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007
Post   Posted: Dec 08, 2025 - 10:40 Reply with quote Back to top
Tomay wrote:
I'm worried about the lack of casualties in general. Can see lots of stat farming players surrounded by rookies again.

It's already stat farming players surrounded by rookies.
If you want to nerf stat freaks you have to reduce the skill slots and/or make keeping them more expensive.
Instead of +20 agent fee per each Season, it could be +20, +40, +80, +160 and so on.
The current Season system doesn't hard-counter the stat freaks.
1350k budget is too high and a 15-game Season is too long.
Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009
Post   Posted: Dec 08, 2025 - 10:46 Reply with quote Back to top
Jayward wrote:
Oh, absolutely. Making good skills cost more, making stats cost less, shortening the redraft period, and allowing MVP allocation all lean towards min-maxing a legend or two


And skilling up is quicker... which is very important

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Tomay



Joined: Apr 26, 2008
Post   Posted: Dec 09, 2025 - 03:06 Reply with quote Back to top
Bing back the real Piling On!

And the real Get the ref!

that'll sort them out.

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