koadah
Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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Feb 11, 2026 - 10:48 |
 
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Sp00keh
Joined: Dec 06, 2011
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Feb 11, 2026 - 10:50 |
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Binning all old teams is silly and destructive. The ruleset isn't that much of a change.
There's some teams that existed 20 years ago (!) that are still playable in [C], which I think is very impressive the site has supported migrations all this time, why should we break that now?
1) Force the teams into redraft process
Maybe give everyone a budget of 1350k to avoid punishing teams who've not played enough in current season to keep their players
2) Force them to fit into new restrictions during redraft. So can keep 2 blitzers, can't keep 4 blitzers
This means you can keep old teams, but without significant grandfathering abuse
3) For the skills, it'd mean all Skaven Blitzers for example now gain +MA and Strip Ball
If one of them already was Legend.. not sure, don't want to see a 7-skill player. Maybe that's the (tiny) grandfathering issue we have to accept to enable migration
If one of them already had Strip Ball, or +MA+MA then not sure, maybe refund the SPP |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Feb 11, 2026 - 10:57 |
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| Sp00keh wrote: |
If one of them already was Legend.. not sure, don't want to see a 7-skill player. Maybe that's the (tiny) grandfathering issue we have to accept to enable migration
If one of them already had Strip Ball, or +MA+MA then not sure, maybe refund the SPP |
couldn't they just be declared an illegal player and forced to sell during redraft? personally I'd rather that than have illegal players running about |
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Sp00keh
Joined: Dec 06, 2011
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Feb 11, 2026 - 11:14 |
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Sure, that'd be an option |
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CrisisChris
Joined: Dec 11, 2023
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Feb 11, 2026 - 12:44 |
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But why would you pusnish the Skaven Blitzer that who gets+Ma and Strip Ball? Any other player who has several starting skills can still get 6 Skill ups. So as long as the stats do not exceed the max values there is no issue, is there?
I guess it is more the other way around. What if a Wood Elf Catcher already has Sprint as a skill up and now gets it for free? SPP refund? How many SPP?
I am not an expert in all this and I do not know if there are many skills like SneakyGit that work differently in season2 and season3. Does that have an Impact?
As I said I like my teams and I would love to see them play on but I also See the benefits to start from scratch and make tournaments more interesting for those that did not yet have the time to play hundreds of games to develop teams. |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Feb 11, 2026 - 13:27 |
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I'd prefer not to have illegal players with more skills than they should have or more positionals than the allowed ones, but my main concern for BB2025 is the Season length.
15-game Season is clearly too long.
With D6 MVP and stuff like Brawlin'Brutes players are going to develop faster.
For a higher balance it's better if stat freaks take longer to be built, so I hope that the BB2025 Season will be shorter than 15 games. |
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Solaris
Joined: May 29, 2023
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Feb 11, 2026 - 13:36 |
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illegal player are a No Go! Didn't expect they will come. There are a lot of better solutions. |
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Urrghs
Joined: Dec 23, 2007
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Feb 11, 2026 - 13:41 |
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Redraft with 2025 restrictions + banning illegal players would be the cleanest option, and most probably the easiest to implement. I hope Christer will go for it. |
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ThierryM
Joined: Mar 27, 2015
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Feb 11, 2026 - 17:21 |
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"15-game Season is clearly too long" - MattDakka
We can also play all our games with fresh 1000k teams, no progression and basta.
Peak Blood Bowl at its blandest. |
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JanMattys
Joined: Feb 29, 2004
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Feb 11, 2026 - 17:35 |
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I am still salty that my old famous human team didn't get the chance to migrate from LRB to bb2016.
There, I said it. |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Feb 11, 2026 - 17:41 |
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| ThierryM wrote: | "15-game Season is clearly too long" - MattDakka
We can also play all our games with fresh 1000k teams, no progression and basta.
Peak Blood Bowl at its blandest. |
For that there are NAF tournaments already.
I want some progression, but not too much, otherwise stat freaks have a big impact on the games.
The level up system, as it is, makes building stat freaks too easy and sure.
In case you didn't notice it, the monster Vampire teams often seen in tournaments are so developed thanks to the Season set at 15 games. With a shorter Season those Vampire teams would be less developed. |
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Rijssiej
Joined: Jan 04, 2005
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Feb 11, 2026 - 19:22 |
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I like the flavor grandfathered teams add to game. I don't think there is a need to force redraft. Only things that are needed is to adjust the base player, remove illegal/double skills and update the value of existing skills. |
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Chingis
Joined: Jul 09, 2007
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Feb 11, 2026 - 20:07 |
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| MattDakka wrote: | | I want some progression, but not too much, otherwise stat freaks have a big impact on the games. |
The later games of the season are exactly when you are most likely to face a team that is best placed to simply target and murder any kind of "eggs in one basket" freak players on an unbalanced team, removing them from the playing environment. You will be facing more developed teams with higher TV and more skills on average in the last games of the season, and also the TV differentials will be greater.
Those are exactly the games you remove from the schedule by shortening seasons. |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Feb 11, 2026 - 20:14 |
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I play a lot in the Box, I see freaks often and they survive for many games despite facing developed teams later in the Season.
The reason is that ball carrier stat freaks are hard to hit, thanks to their stats they can stay back and act as safeties on offence (but avoiding the full brunt of the offence blocks), on their offensive drive they hide in a cage or just are screened, then they can score from almost the middle of the pitch.
So, I don't count on attrition to remove the freaks (which were a common thing even when Cpomb was rampant, and Cpomb was the most effective removal combo), I prefer a radical approach by shortening the Season. It's even more effective with cherrypicking.
It's easy to keep alive and build a freak by playing vs noobs all times, while you can't avoid the Season Re-Draft with the cherrypicking.
Sure, there is Season Re-Draft even now, but at 15 games it's not effective enough at trimming the freaks. |
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dynamo380
Joined: Apr 05, 2009
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Feb 11, 2026 - 20:29 |
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| MattDakka wrote: | | I'd like to keep all my teams if possible, even if I have to reset them and keep just their names. A forced Re-Draft to all BB2020 teams migrating to BB2025 ruleset (even if they have not ended their Season yet) sounds ok to me. |
For what little its worth, this is very much what I would like to see happen. There are teams that I would like to keep, even if its just their name and 'history' (so to speak). Would have no problem redrafting to match the new ruleset |
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