destroyer_dabes
Joined: Jan 27, 2006
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Feb 15, 2007 - 10:19 |
 
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For some reason, gut instinct serves me well in fouling too. For the longest time, nobody but Al Gore would provide casualties from fouling, and now its ironic that he is the one left without guard and with the lowest spp total. He still boots like a pro, leading me to use him over the others out of respect for his abilities. Its also really fun to tell your opponent that fouling their prone one turner to death is an inconvienant truth  |
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kemimutt
Joined: Apr 21, 2004
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Feb 15, 2007 - 10:20 |
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The one fouled must be better than the fouler.
| Nature_Warden wrote: | You're too lucky for your own good Dabes... save me some of that honey..  *Averages about 50 of late*
Anyways, the wierdest thing is, I'm not sure this'll help but I've been getting all zen about my fouls, just sensing in the air when the right moment has come to just lay the boots to that guy I picked out... You prolly won't see it from the replays but it's been like tricking luck into building up to a cas... I think in my last game my DP racked up a niggle, a BH and a KO, not that it won me the game, it's just about timing your shot guy, don't rush it, savour it a bit but don't treat it so cold as to save it for absolute last either... Kick him when the gut grumbles man, I don't even know but here's to lucky charms... |
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destroyer_dabes
Joined: Jan 27, 2006
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Feb 15, 2007 - 10:33 |
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I disagree. The odds of cas'ing a player with a dp foul with full assists is roughly 40% while the odds of getting kicked out are roughly 16%. By my calculations, the opposing player must be about 75% as good as your own to justify a boot. |
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kemimutt
Joined: Apr 21, 2004
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Feb 15, 2007 - 10:50 |
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Hmm, I must have quoted the wrong message. I were supposed be about fouling with a block-guard DP. No sence in fouling a block-lineman with him. |
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Tulkas_jrrt
Joined: Apr 30, 2012
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Feb 10, 2015 - 15:18 |
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Hey hey, usefull tips for fouling. Last week i spend 5 and 3 turns just to foul a Norse Yeti and a sylvian tree. It was very usefull |
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Roland
Joined: May 12, 2004
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Feb 10, 2015 - 15:19 |
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hasn't fouling changed a bit since this thread started? |
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hbgs
Joined: Jul 22, 2011
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Feb 10, 2015 - 15:42 |
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An almost 8 year necro ... *shudders* |
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Tulkas_jrrt
Joined: Apr 30, 2012
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Feb 10, 2015 - 16:07 |
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Sorry guys, i wasn't trying to disturb this old topics from his rest ... You can delete all this if you want. |
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pythrr
Joined: Mar 07, 2006
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Feb 10, 2015 - 16:18 |
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the answer you are seeking is yes. |
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garyt1
Joined: Mar 12, 2011
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Feb 10, 2015 - 17:02 |
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It is far less effective than in in the previous rules of LRB4. Personally I rarely foul, but are you using dirty player (or even chainsaw)? Are you gang fouling players? Are you fouling with low value players on high value players?
The problem I see with it is you can easily have a sending off and don't have great chances of more than a stun with a non-dp foul. |
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Bullroarer4
Joined: Oct 22, 2012
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Feb 10, 2015 - 17:08 |
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with fouling (even with elves) i dont generally unless i can get an armor break with a roll of 7 without the DP. i see it as an additional blitz on a scary downed player. with a usual av8, i will foul with two assists. not a "gang foul" but will trade even if i lose a 70k lino vs a 200k star. |
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pythrr
Joined: Mar 07, 2006
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Feb 10, 2015 - 17:10 |
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fouling is bad, m'kay. |
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RedDevilCG
Joined: Jan 09, 2010
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Feb 10, 2015 - 17:34 |
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Lately I've been fouling almost automatically if assists bring the AV roll down to 5 no matter what. I don't win much. |
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El_Jairo
Joined: Jun 08, 2005
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Feb 10, 2015 - 19:16 |
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[quote="RedDevilCG"]Lately I've been fouling almost automatically if assists bring the AV roll down to 5 no matter what. I don't win much.[/quote]
LOL. This confirms my belief that fouling is just over nerfed. Without DP I would only consider it if the target can win the game by himself, OTT or wardancer and I lack any tackle. Still then I would take into consideration if loosing the fouler is worth a KO.
I will only consider DP on cheap linemen, because than I can afford a substitute.
Back in fourth I always had a DP on my DE. Now I didn't make it into high enough TV to buy me a DP. For elves your looking at 90k for a DP who only becomes effective with 3+ assists, which typically means you are giving away a better position or you are already winning in numbers.
So fouling, yeah I like the fluff but no it is not very effective so you need to do it a lot or really commit to it to have a reasonable impact.
If only sneaky git would have some real value. |
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AegisTheHyena
Joined: Nov 22, 2014
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Feb 10, 2015 - 19:37 |
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I rarely foul. I seem to roll doubles reliably and can keep a running tally of 10-15 sendoffs in a row at times these days (in cyanide version my streak was in the 70s for a time). |
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