f_alk
Joined: Sep 30, 2005
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Apr 06, 2011 - 15:10 |
 
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Please change the scheduler to allow for mirror matches, and not avoid them. |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Apr 06, 2011 - 15:14 |
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You do play mirror matches. I just played one. Or does that only happen when there are no alternatives? |
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Hitonagashi
Joined: Apr 09, 2006
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Apr 06, 2011 - 15:16 |
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Mirror matches I believe are penalised in suitability, so you should play them far more rarely. |
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maysrill
Joined: Dec 29, 2008
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Apr 06, 2011 - 15:16 |
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Mirror matches are my preference in general. It's a truer test of skill, being on equal ground in all respects possible.
Mind you, I like any game that's reasonably fair, but mirrors are the gold standard of fair. |
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DukeTyrion
Joined: Feb 18, 2004
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Apr 06, 2011 - 15:27 |
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The reason for the adjustment to suitability was to reduce the chances of teams always playing the same race. Because the teams 'used' to be put through a table For instance Orc v Dwarf at TR100-120 might have a 0.52 adjustment because of win rate. Therefore because a race playing itself would always be equal, the scheduler would automatically find the mirror match as the fairest game.
However, as I understand it, the scheduler no longer uses the race table for the viability of matches. If this is the case then their should no longer need to be any adjustment for the suitability of any race. So it should be possible to remove them completely. |
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Carnis
Joined: Feb 03, 2009
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Apr 06, 2011 - 15:29 |
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| DukeTyrion wrote: | | However, as I understand it, the scheduler no longer uses the race table for the viability of matches. If this is the case then their should no longer need to be any adjustment for the suitability of any race. So it should be possible to remove them completely. |
Pretty sure it still does use race as an adjuster! |
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srjuanone
Joined: Mar 25, 2009
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Apr 06, 2011 - 15:35 |
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I like mirrow matches. I ve always enjoyed them regardless of the race. In ranked i used to ask for mirrow games but the majority of the coaches used to refuse them and they said: no thx, i dont like mirrow games. I still wonder why people dont like them... |
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DukeTyrion
Joined: Feb 18, 2004
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Apr 06, 2011 - 15:39 |
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| Carnis wrote: | | DukeTyrion wrote: | | However, as I understand it, the scheduler no longer uses the race table for the viability of matches. If this is the case then their should no longer need to be any adjustment for the suitability of any race. So it should be possible to remove them completely. |
Pretty sure it still does use race as an adjuster! |
Really? In which case some of the viability scores surprise me greatly. |
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maysrill
Joined: Dec 29, 2008
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Apr 06, 2011 - 15:46 |
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Funny, but if it's still biased against same-race match-ups, I wonder how many pact teams would destroy each other if they met up more often  |
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Overhamsteren
Joined: May 27, 2006
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Apr 06, 2011 - 15:52 |
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| maysrill wrote: | | Funny, but if it's still biased against same-race match-ups, I wonder how many Nurgle teams would destroy each other if they met up more often |
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Mirror matches should certainly have no bonus or penalty in the scheduler.  |
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Lill-Leif
Joined: Nov 17, 2005
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Apr 06, 2011 - 16:01 |
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For some reason I hate mirrormatches. If there are two different teambuilds it may be more interesting. Two norseteams beating eachother up is pretty interesting though |
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Smeesh
Joined: Oct 29, 2005
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Apr 06, 2011 - 16:34 |
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Didn´t know that the scheduler avoids mirror matches. I don´t like them, but from a balace perspective its far better to force them unless not enforced over greater TV diffrences. Its a self regulation mechanism. Very good suggestion. Thumbs up.
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Purplegoo
Joined: Mar 23, 2006
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Apr 06, 2011 - 19:31 |
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I really hate mirror matches, I’m glad if they are penalised since it’s less fun, less interesting and at times less skilful (styles make fights as they say in boxing; I‘ve always disliked the XFL), but I don’t think they really should be. I’m not sure the box should be deliberately giving us more interesting games, that’s not what it’s about at the end of the day.
Don’t see any harm in penalising playing the same race twice running though. Keep things fresh that way? Might help with variety if some people still don't feel they get enough? That's hardly altering the playing field too much. |
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JoseBagg
Joined: Sep 10, 2004
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Apr 06, 2011 - 19:34 |
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Mirror matches would be great, because it would thin the field of these monster destruction teams.
Currently, it is a little biased, since the big killer teams don't have to face killer teams as much, since the mirror matches are discouraged. So big killer teams would naturally have a longer life expectancy. |
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RandomOracle
Joined: Jan 11, 2004
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Apr 06, 2011 - 19:38 |
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Big killer teams face plenty of other big killer teams, since high-TV teams are mostly paired against any other high-TV teams that happen to be in the draw. Any small factors in the pairing formula are irrelevant if there are only two teams in the draw within 15% TV. |
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