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sonrises



Joined: May 02, 2013

Post   Posted: Jun 16, 2015 - 23:40 Reply with quote Back to top

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Ranked
2514: Erdsa Longrit...280
2513: Schlumpen...233
2512: Pokemors...406
2511: Blessings of Nurgle...406

Box
2514: Contagious Plague...1436
2513: Epic Meal Time...226
2512: Oulun Nurglet...856
2511: Griefers Gonna Grief...931

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Ranked
2514: Hard Hitting Fellas...108
2513: Roaring Greeders...113
2512: Snotling Grenades...158
2511: Snotty Cheaters...158

Box
2514: ARRgres...74
2513: None
2512: LoLz...10
2511: sexy ogrex 2...75

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Ranked
2514: Fleetfoot's Revenge I...1356
2513: Nie dla dzieci...1336
2512: Boney's Grognards...266
2511: Legion of Orgrimmar...516

Box
2514: Old Dirty Orcs...226
2513: Da Mean Green Killing Machine...128
2512: Lamez...766
2511: Bakars Raiders...158


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sonrises



Joined: May 02, 2013

Post   Posted: Jun 17, 2015 - 14:05 Reply with quote Back to top

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Ranked
2514: Primero y Unico...766
2513: Black-Plague...1436
2512: Rata Blanca...1554
2511: University of Helena...272

Box
2514: And out come the rats...173
2513: Glass Is Half Full...118
2512: Burn Notice...974
2511: Viva la Ratsistance!...226

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Ranked
2514: Thracian Heros...246
2513: Keroro's Squad...232
2512: Hard Landers...236
2511:Ranaldinhos...226

Box
2514: Leapers Colony...64
2513: Fear the Frogs & Lustrian Green Tree Croakers...20
2512: Battlefrogs...246
2511: Sexy Frogs II...158

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Ranked
2514: Dirty dead creeps...492
2513: Gravecity Nuffleboppers...406
2512: beutiful NIGHTMARE...266
2511: Death is Forever...350

Box
2514: Rope-Pull Mafia...173
2513: -Tomblords-...406
2512: Public (B)eating...406
2511: House of the Black Lotus...158


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sonrises



Joined: May 02, 2013

Post   Posted: Jun 18, 2015 - 10:12 Reply with quote Back to top

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Ranked
2514: Axis of Anarchy...158
2513: Axis of Anarchy...158
2512: Pink troll goes to ranked...110
2511: Velvet Underworld...266

Box
2514: ?WarpStoners?...79
2513: Bubonik Blood...113
2512: United Smurfs Mix...95
2511: Nagerlfar's (B) Alliance...20

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Ranked
2514: Nuffle Can Suck It...598
2513: Solo un sorbito...266
2512: Nightwhispers...158
2511: Myriad Of Sorcerous Ninjas...158

Box
2514: No Garlic...55
2513: cherServiteurS...124
2512: cherServiteurS...64
2511: Principi...236

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Ranked
2514: Royal Cookie Crumble...1406
2513: To the topranked...570
2512: Hot 5tuff...406
2511: Du Svardenvyrd II & Legion of Longevity...226

Box
2514: To the Boxtop3...118
2513: Black Sithi...251
2512: Black Sithi...856
2511: White Isle Ingress...281


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sonrises



Joined: May 02, 2013

Post   Posted: Jun 18, 2015 - 10:17 Reply with quote Back to top

Well...this is over now. CRP tournament history updated! Keep tuned to TOP25 Rankings in your quest to tournament glory.

Thanks JimmyFantastic, Dhaktokh and DaCoach for your nice words. Didn't answer before in an attempt to keep the data as close as possible for easier browsing.

Cya in January 2516 for an update after season 2515 finishes.

o/
cdassak



Joined: Oct 23, 2013

Post   Posted: Jun 18, 2015 - 10:29 Reply with quote Back to top

Great job!
Well done for the hard work amigo Smile

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Roland



Joined: May 12, 2004

Post   Posted: Jun 18, 2015 - 10:58 Reply with quote Back to top

wow, how do you gather data?
Strider84



Joined: Jun 03, 2009

Post   Posted: Jun 18, 2015 - 11:10 Reply with quote Back to top

Can't we have a special part on the site for these Standings?
sonrises



Joined: May 02, 2013

Post   Posted: Jun 18, 2015 - 13:35 Reply with quote Back to top

Thx coaches,

@Strider84

well, let's start a new campaign!

TOP25 Rankings become official tournament rankings 2516

and now that we got into a wish list

TOP25 Rankings official badges 2516

and

TOP25 Rankings script version 2516

any volunteers for this last one? Wink Mr. Green Very Happy
Kam



Joined: Nov 06, 2012

Post   Posted: Jun 18, 2015 - 14:25 Reply with quote Back to top

Ah much as I love your rankings, I wouldn't vote for the first one. You're doing an amazing job, really, and that's a great addition to the site, however I believe the method used to calculate the points is too oriented to make it official (since it rewards participating more than success in the main touneys). I believe someone who wins a major qualifier (not by pure luck) but does not play minor tourneys is a "better" coach than someone who participates in every RRR / SMACK and wins one from time to time. But on a side-note, I also believe your rankings are nice since they encourage participating in those minor tourneys (and Nuffle knows we desperately need fresh blood, especially in SMACKs).

Another option would be to ask Christer to restrict CR to tourney games and have your rankings official, so we'd have rankings reflecting both "skill" (the new CR) and "motivation".

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cdassak



Joined: Oct 23, 2013

Post   Posted: Jun 18, 2015 - 14:44 Reply with quote Back to top

Sometimes the level of competition for the 8-team minors is much higher than that of a major Qualifier.
Example:
https://fumbbl.com/p/group?op=view&at=&group=4415&p=tournaments&show=36742
(played against Experienced - Star - Super Star)
https://fumbbl.com/p/group?op=view&at=1&group=7922&p=tournaments&show=38173
(played against 3 Legends)

Btw I m not saying that CR means a thing, just that sometimes winning a smack/Brawl is harder than winning a Qualifier.

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Kam



Joined: Nov 06, 2012

Post   Posted: Jun 18, 2015 - 15:02 Reply with quote Back to top

Well yeah, but in any case, someone who wins every 2 tournaments but only participates in 2 or 3 SMACK / RRR / Brawl a year will have a lower rank than someone who participates in almost everything but wins 1/10 - that what I was trying to say.

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cdassak



Joined: Oct 23, 2013

Post   Posted: Jun 18, 2015 - 15:55 Reply with quote Back to top

Agreed but I cant see a way around this. Its tourney rankings, so you have to participate to do well. The rule 'best 10 minors count' is there to normalize the participation factor.
But how can the 'rate of success' factor come to the equation?
Winning 1/1 is better than winning 7/10? So 1/1 should have more points in the rankings???
But then, why should a RRR win with Ogres give the same points as winning one with Orcs?
And so forth...

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the_Sage



Joined: Jan 13, 2011

Post   Posted: Jun 18, 2015 - 16:34 Reply with quote Back to top

Well, personally I think 10 minors is a lot.

What I would do islet the score be modified by tourneys entered, so that someone who enters 5 minors and wins 3 gets more than someone who enters 30 and wins 6. Then again, cinsistency should count for something. Entering and winning a single minor shouldn't discourage coaches from playing more minors that year.

I think something like:
sum of the best N results, divided by the (total attempts/N)
would be good.


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cdassak



Joined: Oct 23, 2013

Post   Posted: Jun 18, 2015 - 16:50 Reply with quote Back to top

But then someone who enters 1 and wins 1 should get more than 3/5 who gets more than 6/30.
In fact, 1/1 would only lose to 2/2 etc.
I dont think that's a good promotion for Minor Tourneys.
Also, if 10 minors are a lot, how many should count?
8? Is that a big difference from 10?
3? Then many coaches would get max points and their difference would be the 'more than 8 teams' tourneys.
Again, not a great promotion for smacks/brawls

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anisdrin



Joined: Apr 10, 2009

Post   Posted: Jun 18, 2015 - 16:52 Reply with quote Back to top

The system is inspired in the ATP ranking.
Every measuring system is subjective but I find this one interesting and promotes participation in tournaments. So thumbs up!
Much more interesting than CR.
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